GDS Scam [RE-wrenches]

graham at solarexpert.com graham at solarexpert.com
Thu Dec 18 10:35:02 PST 2003


These people are annoying!  They called me and my initial impression was
how unprofessional the loud boiler room noise was in the background.  I
was told a basic listing was $10,000 to get my company name in front of
“all decision makers within the government”.  Seems like a pretty bold
statement.  When I continued to be disinterested the caller became rude
and insulting.  I explained to him that I am aware that he is trained to
find fault with my reasoning, I’m not interested lets stop wasting time,
and I hung up.  Well, this guy immediately called back irate that I had
hung up on his call.  I told him that my number is on the national
do-not-call-list, he claimed no such list exists!  I told him if he was
truly smart enough to honestly advise business owners he would not be
stuck in a dead-end telemarketers job.  I told him to leave me alone and
hung up again.

Graham





-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Whigham, SC Solar [mailto:DWhigham at scsolar.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:01 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: GDS Scam [RE-wrenches]


I had asked them to send me a copy of a previous publication for review.
They cannot provide me with one for review.What a joke. A publishing
company that has no copy of their publication.

Best Regards,

Dan Whigham
SC Solar
www.scsolar.com
803-802-5522

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Creswell, Ozark Solar" <ozsolar at ipa.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: GDS Scam [RE-wrenches]


>
>
> Is anyone else getting hounded by GDS to advertise in their 
> "publication"?  I believe GDS stands for Government Data Solutions. 
> When they call, they introduce themselves in such a way that you might

> think they ARE the Department of Energy.  The crap then continues on 
> as they explain that they are preparing a "publication" that will go 
> to thousands of decision makers in the energy world.  This purpose of 
> this publication is to help these decision makers spend the billions 
> of dollars that the government is preparing to put into rebuilding the

> grid as a result the recent blackout.
>
> I've never given them a chance to finish the whole batch of crap so 
> I'm not sure how it all goes.  The first time they called I had to 
> interrupt them and asked outright if they were the federal government.

> The reply was "they are contacted by the federal government".  Then 
> the crap went on so I interrupted them again explained to them that if

> they are trying to sell me something then I'm not interested.  The way

> they are talking is that this is some sort of government listing (free

> seems to be implied).
>
> It's no where near free.  The first time they called the "listing" 
> started at $6200.  I explained to them that exceeds my annual 
> advertising budget but even if it didn't I'm not interested.  But the 
> guy says that's its not advertising, it's a "listing".  Then he goes 
> on to berate me for being such a small company and further insults by 
> explaining that if I was smart enough to see what a great opportunity 
> that I would easily get all of that money back in increased revenue.  
> Of course, that's where I ask them to take me off list and then say 
> that they don't have a list to take me off of.  Of course that's where

> I hang up.  They've (it's the same guy every time-Shawn) proceeded to 
> called several more times apparently oblivious that I'm not 
> interested.  Each time the price had gone up.  The only reason I know 
> this is because as soon as they call I tell them that I'm not going to

> pay the $6200 for a listing.  The says it's $10,000 not $6,200, and so

> on.
>
> I can't find them on the internet and of course they block the caller 
> ID.  So it's hard to find them to complain to them directly.
>
> Travis Creswell
> Ozark Energy Services, Inc.
>
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