Edison Fees [RE-wrenches]

Joel Davidson joeldavidson at earthlink.net
Tue Jan 7 08:36:26 PST 2003


Dear Keith,
Nice going! Please send copy off-list. Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Joel Davidson

keith wrote:

> Graham
>
> We have been doing this in Hawaii for some time now.  Especially since
> the ST1500/2500 didn't have cumulative methods of seeing system
> performance over time.  Unfortunately, this didn't come with some gripes
> from the city and county of Honolulu.  On one particular installation,
> the inverter/disconnect/meter setup was about 3 feet from the utility
> meter.  The local inspector wouldn't pass the job because the city and
> county code which supersedes the NEC stated you could not have more than
> one meter (because of potential sub metering for illegal rental units)
> except in the case of an electric vehicle recharging scenario, which is
> billed at a different $ per KWH.
> It just so happened that I was at a meeting about the difficulties of
> penetration of renewables in Hawaii when I chimed in with my woes.
> Luckily I was sitting next to one of our city councilmen, who flipped me
> his biz card and asked to call him.  Well, they asked me to write some
> legislation and send it to them.  I did and they invited me to a meeting
> with a bunch of lawyers and C&C chief electrical inspectors.
>
> They actually changed the code for us!!!!!!!  They recognized that this
> was specifically for information only!
>
> I have attached a copy of this, if any one would like to take a look at
> it or perhaps use it in their locale.
>
> Aloha
>
> Keith Cronin
> Island Energy Solutions
> 318 A Kuulei Road
> Kailua, Hawaii 96734
> 808-262-3268 Tel
> 808-263-0338 Fax
> www.islandenergy.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Owen [mailto:graham at solarexpert.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 7:19 AM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: RE: Edison Fees [RE-wrenches]
>
> Bill,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I am going to install utility-grade
> meters on all of my up coming PV systems.  I believe customers should
> know how much power their PV system produces over the lifetime of the
> system, and relying on inverter monitoring is unacceptable since this
> info will be lost if and when the inverter(s) needs replacement. Do you
> see any problem with placing the meter next to the inverter(s) as
> opposed to placing the meter adjacent to the electric panel, where most
> installers put them?  I know that I sound like a bitter cynical person
> sometimes and upon reflecting over 2002 I think it was the LADWP lockout
>
> experience, which caused this.  It was the first time in 21 years I had
> to deal with angry screaming customers with a problem I couldn't remedy.
>
>
>
> Graham
>
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