T-240 circuit problem [RE-wrenches]

Bob-O Schultze, Electron Connection econnect at snowcrest.net
Sat Aug 30 15:07:22 PDT 2003


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Matt, Dave, etal,
I've got a few SQE pumps running on sine wave inverters with no 
worries both in 120V (now discontinued, I think) and 240V through a 
T240.  I did, however, have one bummer SQE which worked out of the 
box but poorly. More poorly on the inverter than the genny. Dontcha 
hate that? Grundfos gave my supplier credit for it eventually, but it 
was a hassle with me having to buy a second pump to get the client 
back in water. I was very unimpressed by the glacial speed at which 
Grundfos dealt with the problem.
Best, Bob-O

>Dave,
>
>As I remember, the SQ is a variable speed, constant pressure pump, which
>includes an inverter within the pump itself. They might be trying to run an
>inverter with another inverter - a function which is highly improbable, if
>not impossible. (This according to Hays Pump who also make a similar type of
>pump I was interested in powering with a 4048 a few years ago)
>
>This pump will run great on generator power or grid, but not on inverter
>power.
>
>Matt T
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Palumbo, Independent Power & Light" <ipl at sover.net>
>To: "Wrenches" <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
>Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:54 AM
>Subject: T-240 circuit problem [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>>  A customer reports the following:
>>
>>  240v water pump operating off of OutBack FX2024 inverter by way of a Trace
>>  T-240 (we specked Trace because T-240 comes with box and customer did not
>>  have OutBack AC box on his system) making loud "grinding noises" while
>>  attempting to power the water pump. The pump is a Grundfos SQ sub pump
>>  pumping into a standard pressure tank setup. FX inverter appears to be
>>  operating fine as he reports no problems with other loads.
>>
>>  TriMetric system monitor showed current going from normal 45 amps dc at
>24v
>>  up to 90 amps during this episode. He reported that these numbers were
>>  jumping back and forth violently and the TriMetric meter actually re-set
>>  itself to 100% at this time.
>>
>>  I told him to check all his connections etc. He said he had already done
>>  that. I had him then disconnect the pump feed wire from the T-240 and
>>  connect the pump directly to his 240v generator output. He called back
>later
>>  to report that he tried this and the water pump worked fine directly from
>>  the generator.
>>
>>  He has had the T-240 working in his system since early spring with good
>>  performance until now.
>>  The circuit is as follows: FX2024 > 120vac load ctr > 15A breaker >
>pressure
>>  switch > T-240 T-former > 240v Grundfos SQ sub pump.
>>
>>  Do Transformers go bad? Or what else might cause this problem?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>  > Dave

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