outback inverters [RE-wrenches]
matthew tritt
solarone at charter.net
Tue Oct 22 21:57:05 PDT 2002
John,
Keep this up and you'll own the market! (If you don't already)
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: <jberdner at sma-america.com>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: outback inverters [RE-wrenches]
> Bill:
>
> The normal warranty for our European inverters is 2 years and you can
> purchase an extended warranty out to 10 years if you like. This has
> been SMA's policy long before the first Sunny Boy arrived here in the
> US.
>
> I did not want to create a lot of unnecessary paperwork for everyone
> which is why I made it 5 years automatically for all US Sunny Boys.
> That being said, I think our customers have given us a clear message
> that they want 5 year (or longer) warranties. IT is fairly simple
> economics to calculate the costs and build them in. Unless we get
> messages to the contrary from the market, I imagine we will offer the
> same warranty in our off gird products when they arrive.
>
> If you have any questions, or if I can be of any further assistance,
> please do not hesitate to contact me.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> John Berdner
>
> SMA America, Inc.
> 12438 Loma Rica Drive, Unit C
> Grass Valley, CA 95945
> 530.273.4595 (voice)
> 530.274.7271 (fax)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Brooks [mailto:billb at endecon.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:06 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: RE: outback inverters [RE-wrenches]
>
> Matt,
>
> The initial email stated that SMA and Advanced Energy set the standard.
> They
> did this both with grid-only inverters initially because of the Buydown
> requirement not because they were so anxious to stick their neck out.
> Without that requirement I would expect that most companies would be
> hesitant to offer that long of a warranty for free to off-grid folks.
>
> Bill.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:00 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: outback inverters [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> Bill,
>
> You are no doubt referring to the buy-down program, not off-grid
> systems.
> Where does it say that an equipment supplier is required to give a five
> year
> warranty for off-grid system components? Also, the recent and untimely
> demise of Advanced Energy brings this issue squarely to a head. Written
> five
> year warrantees are only as sound as the company behind them.
>
> Matt
>
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Brooks" <billb at endecon.com>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:53 AM
> Subject: RE: outback inverters [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> > Rob and others,
> >
> > The CEC set the standard at five years. The manufacturers are required
> to
> > follow suit if they want their product sold in California.
> >
> > Bill.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Harlan [mailto:mendosol at mcn.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 9:30 PM
> > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > Subject: Re: outback inverters [RE-wrenches]
> >
> >
> > It is pretty clear that the FX2000 inverters are well designed. They
> are
> in
> > a sealed housing which should eliminate a large chunk of problems that
> both
> > the SW and ST/STXR seem to have (dust, bugs, mice, slugs, etc). The
> > inverter is designed to be easily diagnosed and repaired in the field
> by
> > "technicians" (that be us) with on-board diagnostic LEDs and
> "reasonably
> > priced", easily replaceable boards. This should mean less hernias and
> > significantly reduced equipment down time. It is also gratifying to
> see
> that
> > they appear to be overbuilt in many ways.
> >
> > What is missing (besides some color) as I see it, is a full five year
> > warranty. This issue goes way beyond the CEC Buydown program warranty
> > requirements that we installers sometimes get caught in the middle of.
> The
> > solar industry needs manufacturers that are willing to make
> consistent,
> > reliable, durable equipment and fully back up their products.
> >
> > SMA America and Advanced Energy have set an industry standard with
> five
> year
> > warranties on their inverters. These are included with the initial
> purchase
> > price. In the name of solidifying the industry I hope Outback can
> follow
> > suit.
> >
> > Other thoughts?
> >
> > Rob Harlan
> > Mendocino Solar Service
> > mendosol at mcn.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > 2, FX2000's are the same size as one 4024/4048/5548. You get ~3KW
> per
> > unit.
> > > 4, FX2000's would be ~12 kW. The 2 kW rating is incredibly
> conservative.
> > ONE
> > > will start and run loads that a 4024 will not. The rating is not
> firm
> yet
> > > but will probably end up being around 3 kW at 35 degrees C. They
> will
> > surge
> > > to 4200 watts for 4 minutes. These things are WAY cool. More mosfets
> =
> > > better wave form and they are sealed so stay clean inside.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
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