NABCEP etc [RE-wrenches]

[Joel Davidson]

Lawrence, we just got this info from SEIA. What's up?

SEIA Board of Directors voted to reject the
NABCEP’s training and certification proposal.  Today, the industry submitted
its official
response to the proposal.  While SEIA strongly supports efforts that
thoroughly train
individuals to install PV and solar thermal systems, the NABCEP’s draft
proposal is far
too rigid and restrictive.  The proposal would disqualify existing
practitioners, increase
the price of systems, and could sour the public’s confidence in energy
technology, just
as consumer polls show Americans are ready for renewable energy now.

Lawrence Elliott wrote:

> First I would like to thank the guys who post me "off list" and offer
> encouragement on this issue. You all know who you are.
>
> After reading the letter from Wendy Parker I still cannot see how such a
> program will directly benefit PV and Renewable Energy "wrenches".
>
> SHOW ME THE MONEY.
>
> "What are NABCEP's Goals?
> NABCEP has three goals.  First, certification is a way to protect the
> consumer.  Even if the PV hardware is fabulous, faulty installation
> creates
> ineffective or dangerous systems.  Consumers--in any field--deserve
> quality
> work.  When safety is at stake, quality work becomes an imperative."
>
> "To protect the consumer."  That is a very broad statement.
> A person passing a test will somehow improve relations and work quality?
> Does this remind you guys of "Hi. I'm from the government and I am here
> to help you'?
>
> In the past 18 years I have installed hundreds and hundreds of PV,Solar
> Thermal, Wind, Hydroelectric systems .Many are very very custom and may
> not fit "the codes". If I become licensed does that mean I can no longer
> offer perfectly safe and reliable systems that don't fit this code.
> Could I still install my "experimental" hydrogen generators? Lose my
> license?
> I can think of one or two times when a customer has asked me if I was
> licensed. In most cases they are relieved that I don't have any formal
> credentials who's costs I have to pass on.
>
> The only thing I rely on in business is giving exceptional service.
> The way I treat a customer has nothing to do with a "test" of my
> technical skills.
> Present customers are my best source of new customers. Word of mouth.
>
> Safety. Safety. Safety.
>
> Sounds like the same garbage that comes from the "liberal left
> Leninists" (Democrats)
> "It's for the children"  "For the children"
>
> I just installed a new Vanner inverter and practically went blind trying
> to sort out the already vague and confusing set up instructions as I
> sifted through literally hundreds of WARNING signs. I ignored all of
> them. Are some valid? Maybe. But they remind me of "the boy who cried
> WOLF" They are simply put there by lawyers to cover the ass of the
> manufacture against stupidity and other vultures (Lawyers) . Why so
> many?
> Remember they are lawyers. Bureaucrats. Lawyers. Bureaucrats. Lawyers.
> Is there a difference?
>
> How much additional crap will a NABCEP add to this overload.
>
> I see John Wiles is involved. WARNING.................................
> After reading his articles in HOME POWER I am certain we are on the
> wrong path with this new level of "bureaucracy and Parkinsons Principle
> of Pyramiding Pride"
>
> Just remember  all "good and honest and competent wrenches"
> Your competition will be other wrenches who are less competent, honest
> or skilled but just happen to be very good at parroting back from rote
> memory answers to questions written by in most cases  "BRIGHTLY COLORED
> and WELL FEATHERED parrots". I think you get my drift here.
>
> WARNING. WARNING. WARNING. WARNING. WARNING. WARNING. WARNING. WARNING.
> Bureaucrats on the loose.
>
> P.S. I remember my engineer cousin who worked on Three Mile Island
> telling me how nuclear certified welders "bought" there license under
> the table. Hint. Hint.
>
> Larry Elliott
>
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