Pain & Loathing in Solar [RE-wrenches]

Dana Orzel slrwrk at ocinet.net
Mon Aug 6 15:26:29 PDT 2001


Hey Now Allan, Careful with the "We" . Most of our cleints don't want to
deal with any of that. They want a turn key job that some one [ the
specialist - us] to handel it all.
Dana
----- Original Message -----
From: Allan Sindelar <allan at positiveenergysolar.com>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pain & Loathing in Solar [RE-wrenches]


> Ray,
> We don't do too much digging. We tell folks that we're specialists, and
that
> their money is best spent doing the digging themselves or hiring a laborer
> or excavator. At $60/hour, that dirt's worth quite a bit! We recommend
that
> owners arrange power sheds, battery boxes, and distribution wiring, and
set
> their own array poles in the ground. We supply battery box drawings, power
> shed dimensions, and we can supply steel poles and welding if desired. Our
> main product is our knowledge, and next is our service. We charge for the
> design, and this is part of that. Some folks want a turnkey job, but most
> will save money where they can.
> Raising our base rate has helped a lot. Our time is valued more. We're
more
> efficient. We do less grunt work. And the only customers we lost were the
> ones we didn't mind losing.
> Allan @+E
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Walters <remotech at taosnm.com>
> > It's after midnight, I'm in the middle of laying out a power board on my
> > table and lost my motivation. This is a tough business. I just checked:
> > I've hand carried over 20 tons of lead acid batteries the past 5 years.
> I'm
> > tired. All of you must be dealing with this too? Wrestling 4/0 cable
with
> > your fingers. Pulling a hundred pounds of slimey wire through 200 ft of
> > conduit a few inches at a time....Always the digging: in rock, in mud,
in
> > frozen ground...
> > And the ritual insertion of the ground rod 8 ft down into what ever the
> > earth can dream up  ... Well pumps: lets not even think about the miles
of
> > pipe pulled and slid back in - "This time it'll last 10 years"...
> > Is it worth it?
> > Are we really saving the world?
> > Am I off topic?
> > Have I stared too long into the sun?
> >
> > Ray
>
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