PV Installer Certified Program [RE-wrenches]

jay peltz jay at asis.com
Wed Dec 19 20:16:19 PST 2001


Hi Bob-O,

I'm for some kind of rating, but as I see it, they have to get into the real
world with what is happening.

You can't legislate compentence, that's just the way it is.

Funny how how an inspected system isn't good enough?

jay

"Bob-O Schultze, Electron Connection" wrote:

> Tom and Jay,
> While I disagree with the 4000 hours (this comes DIRECTLY from the
> IBEW, don't kid yourself) and I'm miffed that they expect me to have
> 40 hours of NABCEP "approved" PV training (I could TEACH the goddamn
> course-this sounds like a scam to me), I think a national
> certification could be a good thing. Having just spent far too much
> time and travel over the last two years working on a Renewable Energy
> Technician license for Oregon, and knowing what a bad joke it is to
> let C-46 and "B" license holders in California install PV, I think we
> really need something. Most of the States are trying to figure out
> something to do with us solar bozos and for the most part, they
> haven't a clue. The default is to allow only fully licensed
> electricians do RE. This is dumb all around. Regular electricians
> already HAVE a trade and little in THEIR training has taught them
> anything about RE. They do far worse jobs than we ever do.
> So RE gets installed by us outlaws. This is not any kind of safety
> hazard for most of us reading this list, but we've all seen some very
> scary stuff done by some OTHER bozo. Truth is, a few installers I've
> seen ought to be arrested for a felony if they are caught holding a
> screwdriver. Certification will go a ways toward preventing that. We
> need to look on down the road. A national certification is more
> likely to be accepted FAR sooner by the States now trying to figure
> this out. If we don't take the initiative and get behind SOMETHING
> like this, we will lose our trade to the big unions and universal RE
> implementation will be delayed-again-yet-more. Can we afford that?
> Can the planet afford that?
> Bob-O
>
> >
> >PV Installer Certified Program.
> >The PV certification program is not going to happen, because every
> >major PV manufacturer and distributorship is virtually against such
> >a program. Notice that there is no one on the list who represents
> >the manufacturer or installer except the (Prozac) company Xantrex.
> >They see that:
> >1. It is irrelevant to contracting certification in each of the 50 states.
> >2. It creates an unnecessary and presumptuous bottleneck for the industry.
> >3. There is no need for the program.
> >4. It is bureaucratic empire building.
> >It will die its own death- the "bureaucracy" has no support from the
> >major players- the PV manufacturers that is the scuttlebutt I am
> >hearing.
> >Don't waste your time commenting on a "dead horse".
> >Gator Tom
> >P.S. Some people may accuse me of being a contrian or iconoclast-
> >but now that I'm over 50 I am a curmudgeon.
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>
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> Bob-O Schultze, Electron Connection
> PO Box 203, Hornbrook, CA 96044
> 800.945.7587 or 530.475.3402
> fax 530-475-3401
> www.electronconnection.com
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