PV as an investment [RE-wrenches]

Jeffrey Wolfe, Global Resources global at sover.net
Mon Sep 10 13:31:12 PDT 2001


In trying to do the right thing, AND make a living by selling systems, we 
note that having a PV system installed is a major consciousness raiser in 
further reducing energy use AFTER installation. People want to see that 
meter turn backwards, and will start to pay attention.

Jeff


On Monday, September 10, 2001 1:47 PM, jay peltz [SMTP:jay at asis.com] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Heres my question.  Sure I give the customer many angles to make the 
system cost
> effective, but how many people run into problems when you suggest:
>
> "Well its cheaper to reduce than produce.  We need to get you a new 
refer, washer,
> lights etc etc.  "
>
> Then I show them the math, and its like major blank time.
>
> Just wondering what you all have run into.
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
> Smitty wrote:
>
> > Howdy all. Reading all these wonderful posts about the payback wall 
people
> > have built around themselves before contacting us, something occurred 
to me,
> > and that is this. I don't know how old all of you are, but I suspect 
most of
> > us are middle aged. After WW II, a lot of lads came home to a booming 
economy,
> > and badda bing, badda boom, the baby boom was on. Young couples in the
> > strongest economy on earth, out achieving the American dream for 
decades. He
> > is where we come in. A generation watching our parents getting houses, 
new and
> > better appliances of all kinds, cars with fins, and the marketing boob 
tube
> > teaching us new, bigger and better.
> >
> > Many of the customers we deal with nationwide are of this generation. 
Our
> > company roots are in solar thermal, but we to, still hear the "P" word 
and one
> > of my other dreaded words, "efficiency".
> >
> > Since some of these baby boomers are now yuppies, I find they look at 
things
> > they don't understand as an investment, as opposed to a Ford 
Expedition. ME
> > WANT. I'll spare you the whole spiel, but it is quite simple to explain 
the
> > economics of solar thermal vs a furnace or water heater in terms of an
> > investment. About this time the Mrs. pops up, "It will make our house 
look
> > ugly.". And so it goes. Sometimes the wall comes down (sometimes on my 
head).
> >
> > One last point. I find it is much easier to sell solar to our BB 
brethren,
> > after they have already made a luxury purchase, i.e. a remote hunting 
cabin,
> > RV or a cold swimming pool.
> >
> > Smitty
> >
> > "Bill Loesch, Saint Louis Solar" wrote:
> >
> > > My compliments Jeff for the creative thinking. Anyone else have an
> > > effective reply to utility comparisons?
> > >
> > > Bill Loesch
> > >
> > > RE-wrenches said:
> > > >When asked either "what's the  payback", or "how does this compare 
to the
> > > utility co.", I simply
> > > >said  "It's the cheapest clean power you can buy."
> > >
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