[RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere

Tue Feb 15 21:21:01 EST 2022

Yea Tesla blew it big time with their approach with distributors and 
installers.  Many of us reached out to them early on only to be met with 
silence and then to find out that some fly-by-night or new start-up 
received a territory covering big areas including several experienced 
installers that were ignored.

And then the stories starting rolling in of shoddy installs - bad 
service - long waits - no supply.  What they could have had if they just 
partnered with the existing solar industry instead of the arrogant 
attitude they knew better . . .

Then it became clear perhaps we were better off!  Their early embrace of 
Li-NMC turned out to be not a great option with LFPs coming along - and 
although we were hopeful they might get solar shingles right - they 
never overcame the inherent challenges (all those plugs! and no 
cooling!)  - we saw it in the 2000s with (what was it "American Solar 
Shingles" or some such name).

I love that Elon stepped up the game for folks to embrace EVs and Solar 
- but the execution - super dissapointing and maybe even damaging in the 
long run for solar.

Here's kudos to all high integrity solar providers out there that have 
served the industry for years!  We commend you intent Elon - but next 
time you might ask those that have been doing it for years to partner 
with you!

best,

Jeff

> Chris Schaefer <mailto:chris at solarandwindfx.com>
> February 15, 2022 at 4:00 PM
> Gotta say the same thing here in NY. I've applied and sent credentials 
> 3x now with little to no response over the last 2 years. The local 
> Tesla car dealer wants us onboard as they are getting a lot of 
> complaints from their car clients when it comes to their charger 
> installation's crew. I'm told they are just local electricians. After 
> all this I gotta tell ya I'm not exactly excited to get on board if we 
> don't have the support. Afterall haven't we already lived through this 
> with our current inverter factory support teams to some extent?
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> Kirk Herander <mailto:kirkh at vermont.solar>
> February 15, 2022 at 3:51 PM
> That's the problem. They don't want to talk to you, unless maybe 
> you're interested in buying solar shingles and storage as a package 
> deal. I've applied for certification several times over the last 2 
> yrs, and no response. And present dealers tell me their dealer network 
> is falling apart. No support whatsoever.
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> Old Elon should concentrate more on his terrestrial interests instead 
> of spaceman ambitions.
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> Dana Orzel <mailto:dana at solarwork.com>
> February 15, 2022 at 3:43 PM
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> Very good! I was just about to ask the same question. I have 1 new 
> construction request for a “Tesla” system. Between Snow country [Where 
> I think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not 
> available as it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what 
> Tesla wants to sell it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at 
> Tesla to call me back.
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> I am wondering what other folks experience has been.
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> *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org> *On 
> Behalf Of *Nicholas Welch
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM
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> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere
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> Hello Wrenches,
>
> Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their 
> "Tesla Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please 
> let me know and I will send my contact info.
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> Thanks in advance,
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> Nick Welch
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> NC Electrical License #34779
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