[RE-wrenches] Conext XW Pro Compatible Generators?

Tue Jan 18 12:39:53 EST 2022

Wrenches,

Thanks All for all the great feedback - I appreciate it.   Yes I've used 
Kohler 14RES so the 12 could be a great option  - it is in the same 
price range.  Availability might be another factor! Gens are in short 
supply it seems right now.

I'm still curious what the smallest 1800 rpm diesel option is.  The 
price flattens out for diesel as you grow bigger but wondering what the 
entry price is.

Thanks again,

Jeff

> Eric Smiley <mailto:eric at vecoop.ca>
> January 18, 2022 at 7:42 AM
> Usually I wouldn't chime in with a single example but we have a single 
> customer with a Kohler 12RES on propane and a Connext XW+.
> It's worked well for three years and was easy  to connect.
>
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> Will White <mailto:will at solarenergy.org>
> January 18, 2022 at 4:42 AM
> Jeff,
>
> I don't know how much pricing has changed lately but the Kohler 12RES 
> was going for around $5,000 with a two-wire start built-in. That's 
> only $500 more than the smaller generator with a lot more capacity. I 
> don't think they make it in gasoline so you'd have to use propane.
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
> Jeff Clearwater <mailto:jeffc at villagepowerdesign.com>
> January 17, 2022 at 9:08 PM
> Hi Ray,
>
> Yes indeed I'm used to 10-30 KW gensets as I mostly do larger systems 
> so I've fallen out of experience with smaller sets. I've been specing 
> mostly diesels.  Used to install Onan propane sets years ago but those 
> can be pricey too.
>
> This is a customer that has been buying $1000 gensets and starting 
> manually and abusing their lead-acids so I've been after them to get 
> an decent auto-start genset - so even the $4K+ for the Honda (plus the 
> $400 for the remote start module) is a steep change for them.  I 
> installed the $350 Conext AGS module 2 years ago when I built the 
> system but they never got a decent genny that it could trigger.
>
> So looking for less than $6K options for them in autostart.
>
> It's a very modest load/system - a 6 KW inverter with 32 KWhrs (16 
> usable) of Surrettes.  3 KW  of solar all mounted in/on a dual axle 
> cargo trailer - they use only fridges and lights but they have a damn 
> sewage pump - which is why we upgraded from a 4 KW Conext to a 6 KW.
>
> So yes very open to the low end of the larger sets - any small 8-12 KW 
> diesels our there for reasonable price?  Or propane units that will 
> last?  I'd love to go 1800 rpm for them but within the budget - not 
> sure it's possible?  and of course that is decent wave-form to make 
> the Conext XW Pro happy.
>
> Thanks for redirecting - a welcome input for sure!
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
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> Ray <mailto:ray at solarray.com>
> January 17, 2022 at 8:11 PM
>
> I have a question: why so small a generator?  I've always regretted 
> under sizing the genny for battery charging.  Larger gensets are not 
> as fuel hungry as you might think.  I was surprised recently when I 
> did some calcs, and found that a larger genset would actually get 
> slightly better fuel consumption at the proposed load.
>
> Plus the larger gensets are usually built to last longer than the 
> portable stuff.
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> On 1/17/22 5:33 PM, Jeff Clearwater wrote:
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> Jeff Clearwater <mailto:jeffc at villagepowerdesign.com>
> January 17, 2022 at 4:33 PM
> Hello Again All,
>
> Or I'd consider suggesting propane to the customer as well.  Any 
> experience with know compatibles in propane?
>
> txnks
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> jc
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> Jeff Clearwater <mailto:jeffc at villagepowerdesign.com>
> January 17, 2022 at 1:29 PM
> Thanks All,
>
> Aren't there any 5-8 KW gas gennys out there already set up for 2-wire 
> start?  We do that all the time with bigger units.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Best,
>
> jc
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> Jay <mailto:jay.peltz at gmail.com>
> January 17, 2022 at 1:19 PM
> Hi Jeff
>
> The generator is not set up for 2 wire remote.
>
> The two options that I know of are the one I sent you which converts 
> the remote to 2 wire.
> Disadvantage of this one is that it will only attempt the start 1 
> time. But that generator on gasoline seems to start every time first 
> time.  Propane conversion not.
>
> Or the factory unit which like this one.
>
> https://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Honda-32380-Z37-820ZA/p65440.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAxJSPBhAoEiwAeO_fP1IhOE5lCjwjD81BLmbvGVudBjZaJN_siF2UiT4xbNe9uhGxusSlWxoCEKsQAvD_BwE
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> The advantage of this one is that it follows the inverter ags start 
> programming so you get 3 attempts if memory serves.
> But you’ve got to figure out the correct ags protocol on the Xw.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> Jeff Clearwater <mailto:jeffc at villagepowerdesign.com>
> January 17, 2022 at 12:38 PM
> Thanks Michael and Jay!
>
> If the generator is a 2-wire start why is there the need for 
> additional remote start relays?  Does the Honda not come fully 
> equipped?  And if not is there a generator that does?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
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