[RE-wrenches] Outback settings adjustment so batteries consume less of PV output

frenergy frenergy at psln.com
Mon Mar 22 21:53:04 EDT 2021


Dave,

             I missed your reference to OB/Simpliphi offering a "close 
the loop" to mean closed loop comm.  They are working on it, I'm sure 
its a big job.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net

On 3/22/2021 7:41 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Unless I am mistaken the new Ampliphi 3.8 is still not closed loop 
> with much other than Solarark. The old line of their batts, well has 
> now been improved but not there yet until they get closed loop done! IMHO.
>
> Until Outback is capable of closed loop BMS into optics and their 
> network I am going to stay with Schneider Discover AES and Fortress. 
> It just is too easy and reliable to me than spend time on open loop 
> power systems. After you try a closed loop system you ask yourself, 
> what are setpoints? Why am I 25% faster charging with a genset. Wow 
> true C1 charging!
>
> I respect your opinion but I was spoiled early on with closed loop. 
> Have a good week! Bring on the rain!
>
> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar*
>
> *"we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ 
> <http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/> e-mail offgridsolar at sti.net 
> <mailto:offgridsolar at sti.net> text 209 813 0060*
>
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 21:00:05 -0700, frenergy <frenergy at psln.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>>             I just went through a thorough installation/programming 
>> regime for an Outback FlexPower2 married to 8, SimpliPhi 3.8's.  
>> Outback and SimpliPhi have spent a great deal of time developing 
>> setpoints for several of OB's products in a 23 detailed page 
>> integration guide.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Feather River Solar Electric
>> Bill Battagin, Owner
>> 4291 Nelson St.
>> Taylorsville, CA 95983
>> 530.284.7849
>> CA Lic 874049
>> www.frenergy.net
>> On 3/21/2021 8:53 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote:
>>>
>>> Something is wrong with your programming of the monitor! Does the 
>>> battery make give you parameters to program, they should! This is 
>>> not normal with what I have seen.  Reading state of charge on a 
>>> monitor that does not have a BMS feeding Soc to it, is for 
>>> indication only. It is a moveable feast and a PITA!  I do not know 
>>> why Outback has chosen to not partner with battery companies and 
>>> close the loop for LFP like Schneider has? Anyone know why they will 
>>> not do this?
>>>
>>> Lightning/gensets, and grid power can damage electronics and even 
>>> though they may still seem to be working, they are damaged.
>>>
>>> Probably best to start logging in case there is something deeper!  
>>> Good Luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" 
>>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ 
>>> <http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/> e-mail offgridsolar at sti.net 
>>> <mailto:offgridsolar at sti.net> text 209 813 0060*
>>   
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