[RE-wrenches] Mate3 verses Mate3S

[Ray]

I know its not the same equipment, but we recently had a Magnum 
autostart doing strange things, and it turns out we had it set up for 
the wrong generator configuration.  With all the different types of 
starting configurations on all the different generators, strange things 
can happen.

We're actually considering taking the advice of a recent Wrench post, 
and declaring that our insurance doesn't cover AGS.  If it starts when 
it shouldn't and possibly contributes to a fire? very bad.  If it 
doesn't start when it should and causes refrigerated food to spoil and 
heating systems to go down? also very bad.

I get more call backs for AGS, then any other thing, and its usually a 
generator issue (which we didn't sell).

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 10/2/20 1:35 PM, Tuss, Lones wrote:
>
> Hello Tump
>
> You may want to go into the aux setpoints on the inverter being used 
> to signal a gen run condition and check to see
>
> how it is programmed. It could be that the aux is being instructed to 
> turn on
>
> by the aux setpoints as set in the inverter.
>
> If AGS tells it to turn on great but if inside the inverters aux 
> programming some parameters are being met that tell the 12 volt aux to 
> active then seemingly random gen runs can occur.
>
> Depending on age and the firmware of the inverter there are 9 or more 
> programmable conditions that can trigger the 12 volt aux. At one point 
> there was a setpoint called Remote which told the inverter some other 
> device other than  you is in control of your auxiliary output.
>
>   If you do not see a Remote setting you might try setting the 
> inverters aux to Vent Fan then set the trigger point (Battery Voltage) 
> to a condition that is impossible to achieve. I have a 48 volt system 
> and I can set the Vent Fan trigger point up to 72VDC this will ensure 
> the AGS is the only way the 12 volt Aux can be activated.
>
> I left a message on your phone if you continue to have issues please 
> call me.
>
> Take Care Sir
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-.bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org> *On 
> Behalf Of *Tump
> *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2020 7:24 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Mate3 verses Mate3S
>
> I have a client w/ 8 stack of older VFX3648s, Off Grid. Presently 
> connected to a Mate 3 & older hub 10.  The generator run time/shut 
> down time is never the same, sometimes 10+ hours of running while the 
> inverters in “silent” mode.  Gen stays running despite full batteries, 
> confirmed by battery voltage & using my refractometer.
>
> The only "gen trigger" is battery voltage. I have cleared the history 
> repeatedly & updated the Mate3 FW.
>
>  Is there any conflict replacing the Mate 3 with the Mate 3S in an 
> older system?
>
> I will be also changing out the Hub as well. Thoughts/suggestions
>
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