[RE-wrenches] Another pump quesiton

[Jay]

Anyone have any recommendations as to other products like the scala2?

Thx
Jay

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Ray <ray at solarray.com> wrote:
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> I've definitely had some Grundfos failures from the way back days, but their Alpha ECM circulator series has been really solid, as well as Taco's ECM drive circulators.  To be clear ECM is variable speed drive VSD, but not variable frequency drive VFD.  ECM varies DC voltage to a DC motor to vary speed, while VFD varies frequency to a 3 phase motor to vary speed. 
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> Or at least that's the way my feeble mind understands it......
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> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
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> On 9/17/20 9:42 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote:
>> Look at the recent Grundfos Scala2 recall, they have sold some really bad pumps, so AC is not always best. For Offgrid a spare inverter is often called for because critical systems do need back-up. Many applications/requirements are different.
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>> Grundfos scala2 pump recall
>> They have been recalling or "updating" all VFD type pumps for 30+ years now. It is all part of their planned obsolescence. The more electronics you have in a pump system, the less likely water is to come out of a faucet when opened, and the more it is going to cost you
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>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:30:43 -0600, Ray <ray at solarray.com> wrote:
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>>> Actually best of all:  you don't have to run low voltage DC circuits to the pump room.  Another thing about the ECM drive pumps, they have much higher flow rates available than the El Cids.  And if you're worried about your old school street cred in the off grid world, they are still technically DC at the drive, for those old timers that insist on DC.
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>>> Ray Walters
>>> Remote Solar
>>> 303 505-8760
>>> On 9/17/20 6:54 AM, Dana Orzel wrote:
>>>> I have El-cids in stock & am selling them off.
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>>>> I have switched to the new AC technology that Grundfoss & TACO offer. They are called ECM pumps. Electronically Commutated Pump motors. AC-DC motors, soft start, variable speed, super-efficient, best of all very QUIET!
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