[RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Batteries

Ray ray at solarray.com
Sun Mar 22 14:44:03 EDT 2020


Blue Ion, and Simpliphi that I know of.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 3/21/20 2:48 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote:
>
> I see what you mean Ray. Sorry I misread your mail. There are not too 
> many batteries out there that need LBCO above 48V. Which ones are you 
> talking about please?
>
> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar*
>
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> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:18:21 -0700, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
> <offgridsolar at sti.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> Which XW? There are 3 now. The old graybox XW defaults at 44V LBCO 
>> and the range is 40 to 48V. There also was firmware back in its day 
>> that got older units updated. Schneider still has the firmware under 
>> discontinued products.
>>
>> XW+ is default 44V and adjustable 36 to 44 vdc.
>>
>> XW pro is running downstairs and I will take a look. It would be my 
>> guess that it is the same as XW+. I think one needs to be sure they 
>> are in Advanced settings to tweak LBCO also.
>>
>> I am not plugging Schneider and have done work for both Outback and 
>> Schneider as well as my clients. Hope this helps.
>>
>> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" 
>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ e-mail offgridsolar at sti.net 
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>>
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:46:21 -0400, Ray <ray at solarray.com> wrote:
>>
>>     We've been having good luck with SImpliphi, the pricing has
>>     recently gotten much more competitive.  As it's names states, its
>>     simple.  Each 3.8 kWh unit has an 80 amp breaker built into the
>>     top, weigh about 75 lbs, and are a bit smaller than an L16 but
>>     with carry handles.  We use an insulated 2 pole combiner block to
>>     run all the parallel conductors to the main 2/0 cable.  No
>>     monitoring, but they do have an handy setup guide with
>>     recommended settings, specific for each manufacturer (including
>>     Outback).
>>
>>     Note to all:  Schneider XW can still not set its LVD above 48,
>>     which basically makes it incompatible with most Li+ batteries. 
>>     Their tech support has been abysmal as well. We're looking
>>     forward to them as one of the larger companies in the business,
>>     to put additional resources into their engineering, and come out
>>     with at least a firmware update to correct this problem.
>>
>>     Ray Walters
>>     Remote Solar
>>     303 505-8760
>>
>>     On 3/20/20 3:59 PM, David Katz wrote:
>>
>>         Hello Wrenches,
>>         I am working with some people that want to use a 20 kw-hour
>>         to 30 kw-hour 48 volt lithium-ion battery with an Outback
>>         Radian and Outback FM charge controllers.
>>         They are considering using Discover, Blue-Ion, Battle Born or
>>         SimpliPhi batteries.
>>         Does any one have any recommendations of which battery
>>         functions best with the Outback system.
>>         Thanks,
>>         David Katz
>>
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