[RE-wrenches] Module-Level Shutdown for off grid systems

Jerry Shafer jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 30 19:03:42 EDT 2019


Wrenches
Here is one l have right now, it's off grid, there is a carport roof over a
trailer, there is no contact between the two untill you get to the deck
surround of the trailer. Question, does the carport roof qualify for RSD
because there is a habitable structure underneath even though that it has
it's own roof or since the trailer is on wheels it does not, even though it
may never leave the location without removing the elevated deck and yes it
will be used in this location. Thoughts, the building department does not
know either.

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 10:40 AM Ray <ray at solarray.com> wrote:

> The PV system (and 690.12) stop at the PV Disconnect. (see figure
> 690.1(b), Note (2)).  Charge Controllers are part of the Energy Storage
> system (706) now.  We presented this in our plan sets, and we drew clear
> lines on the wiring diagram showing which articles applied to which parts
> of the system.  The AHJs have not challenged us on this. However, they
> pulled a bunch of other stuff out, for instance that 705 still applies to
> off grid....
>
> I still have not seen a good presentation anywhere on applying NEC 2017 to
> off grid, outside of the RE Wrenches list.  Everyone is still figuring this
> all out for off grid after all the changes in 2017.  Can't wait to see what
> 2020 looks like....
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
>
> On 9/28/19 11:33 AM, jay wrote:
>
> HI Jason
>
> Does that mean that 690.12 B 1 would apply with the following.
>
> A ground mounted or external array to a living structure
> and
> if the CC was less than 1 meter from entry into the building
>
> You wouldn’t need rapid shut down?
>
> jay
> peltz power
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Jason Fisher (STC) <stc.jason at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Just a reminder to everyone struggling with this issue that only
> building-attached circuits energized by PV sources require RSD. So ground
> mounts generally don’t, or at least would only require a disconnect at the
> building if sending dc circuits into buildings.
>
> Energy Storage is covered under article 706 in 2017 and does not require
> any shutdown, just sensible disconnection requirements.
>
> Jason Fisher
>
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