[RE-wrenches] FullRiver battery question

Sindelar Solar Allan at sindelarsolar.com
Thu Nov 29 00:31:10 EST 2018


Thanks, Ray. In this case I established availability (albeit in SoCal) 
and a good written price quote before posting my request here.

Allan

On 11/28/2018 9:53 PM, Ray wrote:
>
> I don't see why it wouldn't have similar performance to other 
> Fullriver products.  The problem I've had in the past, when I found 
> that "perfect" battery model on the spec sheet, is that the 
> distributor usually doesn't stock it, and then it either is too 
> pricey, or too long a lead time to be practical.
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
> On 11/28/18 8:22 PM, Sindelar Solar wrote:
>>
>> Esteemed Wrenches:
>>
>> Short form, just my question: FullRiver makes a DC215-12 AGM battery, 
>> which is in the J185 profile, more akin to an L16 at 15"x7"x15" tall. 
>> I haven't used this particular battery model and it's not commonly 
>> used in solar applications. Is there any reason I should avoid it, 
>> because of shape or intended application or anything else?
>>
>> Background story: I'm rebuilding/upgrading one of a handful of 
>> late-1990s off grid systems that use the Michigan Energy Works 
>> transformerless inverter/charge controller on a 144V DC voltage 
>> standard. It's a rather unique product, difficult to make fully 
>> Code-compliant today given the lack of an isolation transformer 
>> between the DC and the AC. However, Code compliance isn't the issue 
>> here. The existing system uses 24 6V L16 FLAs wired in series, with a 
>> 900W array (10 BP590s from 1996) feeding them (at 5A max). I'm adding 
>> 1,560W and reducing the battery capacity using FullRiver AGMs. My 
>> question is simple: the most familiar large 12V AGMs are the 8D 
>> profile with about 260 AH (C/20 rate) and sometimes the 4D profile 
>> with about 210 AH. Both of these batteries are short, with a larger 
>> footprint, and 12 of them won't fit in the space of the 24 L16s 
>> unless they're mounted on their sides. I can do that but would prefer 
>> not to. FullRiver also makes DC215-12, which is in the J185 profile, 
>> more akin to an L16 at 15"x7"x15" tall. It fits the space.
>>
>> Thanks, Allan
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> *Allan Sindelar*
>> allan at sindelarsolar.com <mailto:allan at sindelarsolar.com>
>> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
>> Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
>> *505 780-2738 cell*
>>
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