[RE-wrenches] Forced air Furnace

[RE Ellison]

Here in northern New York fuel oil deliveries are a fact of life
They can put you in auto delivery or you can order as you need it 
Home heating oil = diesel with fewer taxes here
K1 kerosene is much cleaner, actually clear
In this state they dye it for tax reasons
Don’t get caught with it in a diesel truck tank ! The state will bend you over bad 

Easy to get delivered and use

Bob

> On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Dan Fink <danbob88 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Do people fill up their tanks with 5 gallon jugs of it hauled home in the back of their pickup trucks? That doesn't sound very safe. Or is there some sort of kerosene delivery truck that makes the rounds?
> No such thing exists here on the Colorado Front Range that I know of.
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>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:25 AM RE Ellison <reellison at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you relatively open floor plan I have been using the monitor heaters another one is the toyo brand
>> They get burning air from outside and exhaust outside warming the incoming air at the same time
>> They run on K1 kerosene and are very efficient 
>> They are a phantom load but what they save in fuel used over a standard furnace is very very considerable
>> Seems I remember that used to be 650 W to start for a few minutes and then 115 W to run
>> 
>> I have several customers using them with good results
>> Mine cut my fuel use by about 150 gallons a year to just about 275 gallons a year
>> No inspectors have a problem with them in this area.
>> Your inspector may vary, like mileage statements !
>> 
>> Bob Ellison
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <offgridsolar at sti.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Drake, look at home depot for the Empire brand of small wall furnaces. They use zero power (old style thermo like a water heater) and can be legal as primary source of heat for building code. They vent out a wall and are very easy. Many of my clients use them to get legal and then use wood heating. Good luck!
>>> 
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>>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:36:45 -0400, Drake <drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Wrenches,
>>>> 
>>>> What is the best choice for a propane, forced air furnace for an off grid house? We would prefer one that doesn't have a phantom load, although the transformer for the thermostat may not be avoidable. Low blower current would be preferable. The furnace AC will be powered by a Magnum 4448 PAE.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Drake 
>>>> 
>>>> Drake Chamberlin
>>>> Athens Electric LLC
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>>>> http://athens-electric.com/
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