Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]

[Tom Elliot]

Our Neptune is incredibly efficient, using about the same as quoted for the
Staber as measured by our Brand meter.  It also doesn't seem to use nearly
the amount of water as a standard top loader.  I measured 124 watt-hours to
do a load using the max-extraction spin cycle.  I'm sold on the Neptune.

Tom Elliot
Guffey Energy Works
Solar Energy Education
http://www.wagonmaker.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ellison, Alternative Energy Systems" <ellison at gisco.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]


> The last info that I had on the Neptune is that it is NOT an efficient
> washer. It draws considerably more than the Staber and a HUGE amount of
> water, I have been told that it constantly replaces water to cut down on
> sudsing.....  So it uses lots of water and pump run time.
>
> Bob Ellison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Hill [mailto:solarjon at netshel.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:49 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]
>
> >Travis-
> I agree with leaving the dryers out of the calcs, as they will
> typically be used in the winter when solar is minimum.  We do include
> the washers, however, as many of our customers do run the washers off
> their systems in the summer. Wind systems, of course are the
> exception.  The 100 watt-hr for the Neptune washer seems really low.
> Where can we get these? I don't think the Staber could be any less.
> Regarding the refrigerators, I think lots of progress can still be
> made besides motor improvements. Check out the Sunfrost: two
> compressors and the evaporator, top-mounted, 3-4" urethane
> insulation, and lack of thermal bridges- all of this could be
> incorporated into conventional units, without increasing the cost too
> much.
> Jon HIll
>
> >I typically leave the washer and dryers off my sizing calculations and
just
> >accept that they will only be operated when the generator is running so I
> >really haven't paid much attention to their energy ratings.  I just make
> >sure the inverter(s) can start them.
> >
> >Does anyone have any recommendations for gas dryers for off grid houses?
> >Many cook stoves are easily field convertible from nat. gas to propane
and
> >back.  Is this true for the typical gas dryer?
> >
> >Has anyone used a power meter to find out how many watt hours the
"typical"
> >dryer takes to dry the "typical" load?  My 10 year old washing machine
> takes
> >250 watt hours to do a full load of clothes and I have measured a
customers
> >Neptune washer and found it to take right at 100 watt hours for a load.
> >
> >My newer (1 yr old) Amana 21 cu. ft bottom freezer fridge is using just
> over
> >1.8 kWh's per day @ 80f.   It's yellow tag rated it at 576 kwh's  per
year.
> >I found it to be using something like 1.2 when the kitchen was under 70f.
> I
> >subscribe to several energy trade journals and they are talking about the
> >next generation of motor driven appliances are going to be using much
more
> >advanced motors within a few years.  It seems that manufacturers have
gone
> >about as far as they can with non-motor efficiency improvements.  It
sounds
> >promising that within several years we should be able to appliances
locally
> >that are ideal for RE systems.
> >
> >Travis Creswell
> >Ozark Solar
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