<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I\u2019m going to disagree about LFP not being capable of burning or exploding. <div><br></div><div>And no I don\u2019t agree with Prose. <br><div><br></div><div>Here is but one of a lot you can find online. </div><div>I have seen and talked to a number of fellow installers who have had different LFP batteries fail, some have been contained within the steel container, others not. </div><div><br></div><div>How is this possible? One avenue is the BMS fails then it\u2019s possible for a single cell to get above the 3.65v which can cause it to fail and then you have the below. Other is of course a faulty manufacturing process. </div><div><br></div><div>In regards to the IRC, I would include just like with LA that ventilation is important to try and prevent enough concentration of gas to reach the explosive threshold.</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWBt6nv8U58"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWBt6nv8U58" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="300"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:#5C6A74;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center" align="center"><img style="width:300px;filter:brightness(0.97);height:168px;" width="300" height="168" draggable="false" class="lp-rich-link-mediaImage" alt="maxresdefault.jpg" src="cid:125A6A47-AC4F-4E20-97B5-06AF00DCCD47"></td></tr><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#5C6A74" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="table-layout:fixed;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgba(92, 106, 116, 1);-apple-color-filter:initial;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px 0px 16px;overflow:hidden;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-topCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWBt6nv8U58" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.847059);">Electric Boat Explodes While Charging: LFP Batteries</font></a></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWBt6nv8U58" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.54902);">youtube.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 23, 2026, at 7:40\u202fAM, Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Jim, <div><br></div><div>Take a look at the requirements in the 2024 IRC for energy storage systems. </div><div><a href="https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IRC2024V2.0/chapter-3-building-planning#IRC2024V2.0_Pt03_Ch03_SecR330">https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IRC2024V2.0/chapter-3-building-planning#IRC2024V2.0_Pt03_Ch03_SecR330</a></div><div><br></div><div>Specifically R330.4. To me, this is kind of insanity when dealing with lithium iron phosphate batteries. I am dealing with it on a project right now, where we are installing batteries in an unfinished basement. We are going to have to build out a drywalled enclosure around the batteries, fire tape the seams, fire caulk the holes where the cables come out, and then also build a custom drywall door that will self-close and self latch. All of this for something that is (according to this youtube video - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60LEo0Rwpp8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60LEo0Rwpp8</a>) less flammable than a piece of wood. I understand that loose connections can heat up and pose a fire risk, but it is less likely to burn than a loose connection in an outlet in the wall. I wonder if there is even a single example of residential LFP (not NMC) batteries installed properly and with a proper BMS going up in flames? Safety efforts would be better directed at drywalling around every single outlet in the house...</div><div><br></div><div>NY now enforces this code, and it is really difficult when you come up against an AHJ who enforces it to the letter of the code.</div><div>Does anyone have an idea how to get this code to realign with reality?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div>Dave</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 9:18\u202fAM Jim Gowdy via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Good Morning,</div><div> I have a customer where we are replacing their FLA battery bank with Lithium, specifically the Discover Helios ESS 16.1KW battery and they have concerns about fire suppression in case the battery catches on fire. I've never really thought about it other than installing them on non combustible material and letting the BMS handle any over temp, over charging, etc. I've seen batteries grid tied and offgrid where the batteries are mounted in all sorts of places and I don't think anyone has fire suppression on their minds. Has anyone had any experience needing to install some sort of fire suppression for their battery bank or have any thoughts on this matter? </div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Jim with Gowdy Electric<div>Cambria, Ca 93428</div><div>business 805 927 2630</div><div>cell 805 975 5279</div></div></div></div>
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