<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Were these Tigo TS4  A-Os or A-Fs?  If A-Fs, are there similar stories about the A-Os?</div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Howie Michaelson<br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 11:33\u202fAM David Buckner via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-5622325128163804641">




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We have a multitude of these same issues with the TS40-A-F.  We followed every new guideline from Tigo in order to avoid corrupted signals but still had issues.  After a hot breezy day in NJ last year caused a Tigo failure to spread the roof caught on fire
 and caused millions in damage.  Thankfully no one was injured.  We spent the rest of 2024 pulling 6 MW&#39;s of Tigos off of other roofs for this customer.  I have heard multiple stories of similar issues for many very experienced installers.</div>
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<b>From:</b> RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Nick Lucchese via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 19, 2025 12:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>&gt;; RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nick Lucchese &lt;<a href="mailto:lucchesesolar@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucchesesolar@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Tigo TS4-A-F </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Appears that Zonna still has quite a few in stock. Feeling foolish to purchase more after having a TS4-2F fail into a pile of molten plastic and ruin a 405 watt bifacial module that I can no longer find a replacement for. What other
 options do we have for small DC coupled arrays on residential rooftops though? Not the most inspiring times to be installing rooftop PV. Hopefully I&#39;ll start having better luck with the single module units. Numerous times I&#39;ve had units become bricked and
 not pass module voltage but this is the first time I&#39;ve had this type of catastrophic failure that also inconveniently cost me the module.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 7:10\u202fPM William Miller via RE-wrenches &lt;<a id="m_-5622325128163804641OWA8c507c37-2548-2c0d-e50c-a1bd2f45ca9e" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:12pt">I am having trouble locating these RSDs.  Very few vendors appear to have these and I can\u2019t get any to call back and verify they have them.  I
 can\u2019t get Tigo to return my calls.  Does anyone know if these are discontinued?</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:12pt">What are the rest of you doing for rapid shutdown?  I don\u2019t trust Alps:  I have heard too many horror stories.  It seems the form factor is too
 small to contain arc suppression measures.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:12pt">Somewhere I saw as an alternative the Tigo TS4-A-O.  These are optimizers.  I worry these will fight with the MPPT algorithm in the inverter or
 charge controller.  There is also the TS4-A-S which has shutdown and monitoring.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Verdana,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:12pt">All input is welcome an appreciated.  Thanks in advance.</span></p>
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