<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We have had terrific success using Wagos in rooftop junction boxes for splicing #12 Enphase cable to #10 home run THWN. We have no issues whatsoever with these.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Unfortunately, the #10 PV wire insulation is too large for the Wago 221-6XX series. We have been buying #14-#4 Polaris taps and it&#39;s getting very expensive. I would like an alternative.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">For a while we were using the King Innovation AlumiConn purple &quot;suitcase&quot; connectors for Enphase, but they are only 300V rated and I don&#39;t think the PV Wire insulation fits in those, either, for &lt;300V applications. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I have seen people using MC4 connectors in rooftop junction boxes like Blake suggested, but I wasn&#39;t sure if that is acceptable practice to use them this way (in an enclosure), and it does require a pretty large junction box. We prefer to use the EZ Solar JB-# series of boxes. The rail mount ones (JB-3) are pretty small, but the tile roof JB-2 is huge, and the shingle JB-1 is sizable as well. I guess if there is no prohibition against using them in an enclosure, then it should be allowed. I do like the watertight nature of this solution.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I have seen some clowns using MC4 connectors with #10 THHN wire to make these splices. That&#39;s obviously no bueno. Crazy stuff...</div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br>Jason Szumlanski<div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956</span></div><div><font color="#333333" face="Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208</font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 4:44\u202fPM Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Adam, <div>This response is just to you. Is NYSERDA the inspection agency you are talking about? Cause they have given me issues about using Wago Nuts inside a 3R box, even after I got a statement from Wago saying that it is okay to put it inside a 3R box. But squirting a bit of No-Ox in there seems to make them happy about it. The one time we put one inside a 3R panel board to extend a short wire and forgot to put No-Ox on that one, they gave us a 2 out of 5 on the inspection, even though that was the only thing noted in the entire inspection report! But I would be curious if the point you make above will work with NYSERDA?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div>Dave </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 4:16\u202fPM AE Solar via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="2">We had an inspection agency that was giving us a hard time about using buchanan crimps in junction boxes because they aren&#39;t rated for outdoor/damp locations. The point was made (on this listserve) that &quot;<i>if the inside of a 3R enclosure isn&#39;t considered dry enough for a <span><span>buchanan</span></span> <span><span>crimp</span></span>/cap, then there&#39;s millions of 3R panels with breakers and busbars in them that would have the same problem</i>&quot;. The inspection agency finally relented. We put a little No-Alox in the cap. I know that&#39;s not what your initial post was about, but tossing that in for consideration just in case...</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Adam Katzman (he/him)<br>Autonomous Energies | Owner/Operator</div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.autonomousenergies.com" target="_blank">www.AutonomousEnergies.com</a><br>(518) 567-1468<br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 3:51\u202fPM Jay via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Sam</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I can\u2019t imagine being just copper it would matter, the AHJ might have a different opinion however </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Question. </div><div dir="ltr">How are you insulating them?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 11, 2025, at 11:15\u202fAM, Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<div dir="ltr">Wrenches,<br><br>On the attached product spec sheet for Ideal Copper Crimps (aka Buchanan crimps) you&#39;ll see that max voltage for the crimp is rated at 600V but an asterisk indicates up to 1000V when &quot;in fixtures and signs&quot;.  In our application this is a 1000v system and we are joining pairs of #10 PV wires.  The junctions are made in a rail-mounted, plastic j-box.  We could not find the definition of &quot;fixture&quot; as it might pertain to this situation in the NEC and as such are interested to learn more about using Buchanan crimps for 1000V applications.<div><div><br></div><div><div>&lt;image.png&gt;</div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Sam<br>  <div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family:Carlito,Tahoma,sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0px 10px 0px 0px;vertical-align:top"><a href="https://onsiteenergyinc.com/" style="border:medium" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/675cb4f269e8da457106c938/67acde8cf274634235411bdd_email-sig-logo-onsite-energy.png" alt="OnSite Energy" align="top" width="95" height="95" style="display: block;"></a></td><td style="padding:0px;vertical-align:top"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0px 10px 0px 0px;vertical-align:bottom"><div color="#514ca0" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(81,76,160);font-size:14pt;font-weight:600;text-transform:uppercase">Sam Haraldson</div><div color="#f9a145" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(249,161,69);font-size:11pt">Operations Specialist</div><div color="#514ca0" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(81,76,160);font-size:8pt">(406) 551-6135</div><div color="#514ca0" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(81,76,160);font-size:8pt">1515 N. Rouse Ave Bozeman, MT 59715</div><div color="#f9a145" style="padding:0px;color:rgb(249,161,69);font-size:8pt">Locally owned and operated since 2012</div></td><td style="padding:0px;vertical-align:bottom"><a href="https://onsiteenergyinc.com/bcorp" style="border:medium" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/675cb4f269e8da457106c938/67acde8cb918886086c8a0d5_email-sig-logo-bcorp.png" alt="B Corporation" width="22" height="33" align="bottom" hspace="2" vspace="2" style="display: block;"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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