<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">HI All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You\u2019ve all obviously had people take way better care of their VRLA batteries than I have. And it seems as though VRLA and FLA are both not lasting as long as they used to for reasons I don\u2019t understand. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I hear someone say yeah I want VRLA for my rental, I can only say no way would I do that. But maybe you\u2019ve got really really good renters. </div><div class="">My experience with renters is they are really good at killing batteries. The last renter we had, after he killed the batteries through neglect, we told him he had to replace them, and he did. Then it was great as I didn\u2019t care what he did. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At this point with the cost of LFP vs VRLA and cycle life, availability etc and all that, LFP is the clear winner for me. With the exception of sub freezing temperatures. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just my 2 cents</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">jay</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 23, 2024, at 9:23 AM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">David<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have installed hundreds of Concorde AGMs and about same quantity of FullRiver AGMs. About 225 off grid systems using 12 or 24 AGMs in each system depending on need. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Concorde offers a 2V 900Ah and 6V 300Ah \u201ctall golf car\u201d battery. And they have an L-16 size as well similar to FullRiver. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">FullRiver offers a 6V 400Ah and 2V 1150Ah L-16 size. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I personally own 24 each FullRiver 6V 400Ah bank (48V nominal) for my main house backup (installed since 2017, Outback Radian). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I have 24 2V 1200Ah Concorde AGMs in a rental. (48V, XW6048). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have a broker / supplier for both (same guy). I\u2019ll text his contact. </div><div class=""><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thank you,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maverick</div><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maverick Brown<br class="">Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006<br class="">Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.<br class=""> \u2022 Solar Commander Remote Power<br class=""> \u2022 SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection <br class=""><a href="mailto:maverick@mavericksolar.com" class="">maverick@mavericksolar.com</a><br class="">512-460-9825</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:20\u202fAM, David Palumbo via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">\ufeff
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Wrenches,</div>
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I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery replacement that I own and manage.</div>
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I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to the 900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system. </div>
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I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now. I need to install in mid-October.</div>
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What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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