<div dir="ltr">My simple answer is to ask the company for just one customer name (not a million) 

with one still working after a year, with contact information to confirm that the product works.  Usually that ends the conversation.  Just one customer or even just a video with sound and a meter showing output.would be a great step forward. I paid $999 for a &quot;1kw&quot; machine that arrived in good condition with nice blades and well built but the 30&quot; long blades were a dead giveaway that I would not produce  anywhere near 1000 watts.  Had a nice little controller and dumpload but the best power I saw was 550 watts in a gale. No need for a dump load.  Less than a year later it blew to pieces with parts scattered all over my pasture.For nine kw output you would need 10&#39; to 15;+ blades. and the unit would be super heavy.. <div><br></div><div>John Blittersdorf </div><div>CV Wind.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 12:14\u202fPM Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p><font size="4">When I was maybe 10, I drew a picture of a car
        with little windmills on it and told my dad, (MS nuclear/mineral
        engineer), that I had created basically a self perpetuating
        vehicle. (I had no idea what that actually was).  My dad was
        very nice and smiled at me.  (At least he didn&#39;t laugh).</font></p>
    <p><font size="4">I&#39;ve written off VAWT, so if something has
        changed, I&#39;d like to know. This seems not to be hopeful.</font></p>
    <p><font size="4">Chris <br>
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    <div>On 7/4/2024 3:56 PM, Ray Walters via
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      <p>On a hot day, you could turn the ceiling fan on high, and the
        breeze would operate the turbine, thus zeroing out your energy
        use.  Talk about free energy! <br>
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      <p>In the same vein, here&#39;s a solution to our transportation
        problems as well:</p>
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      <p>Ray Walters<br>
        Remote Solar</p>
      <div>On 7/4/2024 1:42 PM, Brian Mehalic
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        <div dir="ltr">Probably should convince them go to with
          Tesup&#39;s VAWT offering instead.
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at
            11:32\u202fAM Kienan Maxfield via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;
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                  Hey all, </div>
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                  I know well the old adage - &quot;If it sounds to good to
                  be true, then it probably is.&quot; I also know that I have
                  seen numerous windmill scams.  </div>
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                  That said, I am doing some consulting for someone who
                  wants to buy and install this Tesup windmill...
                  Supposedly a 9 kW wind turbine for $999</div>
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                  <a href="https://tesup.com/us/products/tesup-horizontal-wind-turbines-for-homes" id="m_-6651488065321960900m_-78550871996830930LPlnk" target="_blank">https://tesup.com/us/products/tesup-horizontal-wind-turbines-for-homes</a></div>
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                  My customer claims all the normal things... This
                  company has been around for a very long time (so they
                  claim), they have millions of happy customers (so they
                  claim), they are from Europe, not Asia (as though that
                  would make them trustworthy)... </div>
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                  I know enough to be highly suspicious, and I won&#39;t be
                  touching this unit myself either way, but I&#39;m just
                  curious if anyone knows anything directly about this
                  specific one. I&#39;ll be advising this person not to get
                  his hopes up if he does decide to try it out, and that
                  I am suspicious, but if anyone has anything more
                  specific, I&#39;d love to hear about it so I can give
                  better advice.</div>
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                  Thanks,</div>
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