<div dir="ltr">Same experience for me, Toast if reboot doesn&#39;t wake it up.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 3:33\u202fPM Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I&#39;ve had several MX and FM failures (at least 5) over the years, often with the output at zero. I don&#39;t know what actually fails, but they just stop producing.  I must admit, I don&#39;t remember if in all cases I tried resetting them to factory default, but my memory is when talking to Outback support, after checking for appropriate input and output voltages, if there aren&#39;t any other obvious issues, they&#39;ve told me the units are toast.<br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Howie Michaelson</div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Sun Catcher<br></div><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 2:45\u202fPM Jay via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">No error message for CC fan<br>
<br>
The fan should cycle from battery power off start up. <br>
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I e never seen a CC produce zero watts. Reduced yes <br>
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While the fan might be broken I don\u2019t think that explains the issue.<br>
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&gt; On Apr 23, 2024, at 11:36\u202fAM, William Miller via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; \ufeffIf the fan fails would there be an error message?  As always, I looked this<br>
&gt; up before posting.  The manual is not clear on the matter.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; William<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Miller Solar<br>
&gt; 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422<br>
&gt; 805-438-5600<br>
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&gt; CA Lic. 773985<br>
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&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On<br>
&gt; Behalf Of MDElectricSolar via RE-wrenches<br>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 6:58 AM<br>
&gt; To: RE-wrenches<br>
&gt; Cc: MDElectricSolar<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV/Charge Controller Troubleshoot Help<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; It may be the fan. I had an FM 80 where the fan went bad that caused very<br>
&gt; limited solar production throughout the day.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Michael D Nelson<br>
&gt; MD Electric &amp; Solar, Inc.<br>
&gt; 707-684-0064 mobile<br>
&gt; 707-884-1862 office<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.mdelectricsolar.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.mdelectricsolar.com</a><br>
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&gt;&gt; On Apr 23, 2024, at 6:54\u202fAM, jay via RE-wrenches<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; \ufeffHI Jim,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; The CC is sure suspect.<br>
&gt;&gt; You didn\u2019t mention what the battery voltage is.<br>
&gt;&gt; Those CC have a hard PV watt input limit.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; You can try and set it back to factory default and then reprogram,<br>
&gt;&gt; sometimes that works.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; I don\u2019t use the FM-60, but always the FM-80 because of the fan<br>
&gt;&gt; replacement.  the 80 takes 3 minutes, the 60 takes 2 hours.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; jay<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Apr 23, 2024, at 6:00 AM, Jim Gowdy via RE-wrenches<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m troubleshooting the solar aspect of a small offgrid 120v outback<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; system and need some opinions.  The customer was complaining that the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; generator was running too much so I went out to their property and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; investigated.  The solar array consists of 16 total panels (4 strings of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 4).  At the combiner box, I took the voltage and amperage reading of each<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; string and found the following......BREAKER 1 (85VDC/8.87A) BREAKER 2<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; (84.5VDC/8.9A) BREAKER 3 (.03VDC/0A) BREAKER 4(85VDC/8.89A).  Breaker 3<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; string was not producing and so I did a fix and then read<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; (87.1VDC/8.43A).  After reviewing the online monitor since that fix from<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; a few days prior I&#39;m realizing that the first day after had 4.5KWH<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; production, second day had 0.7KWH production, and yesterday had 0.3KWH<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; production.....sun has been out without clouds.  The 60A Outback charge<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; controller shows there is PV voltage, but noticed it was in &quot;silent mode&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; a good amount of time.  Charge controller is old, but all the other<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; equipment was updated about a year and a half ago.  I was wondering if<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; there is a way to diagnose if the charge controller is bad without just<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; replacing it and what does it mean when it&#39;s in &quot;silent mode&quot;.  Another<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; side note is that their generator threw an AGS fault code on the MATE3<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; controller and found that the generator has problems so I ended up<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; turning from &quot;auto&quot; to &quot;off&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
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