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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank you for the concise answer. I have told the potential client that they have not been provided with a workable design for their system. Unfortunately, I think the prestige of the big companies creates a sense of competence that may not be justified. </span></p>
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<p>I<span style="font-size: large;">'ve done a fair amount of roof mounted solar structural compliance, and I would say that the cantilevered design looks like a disaster waiting to happen. You could not use conventional solar racking products. Chris</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">My earlier reply may have been a bit facetious. What I meant by it was that big-box solar contractors can be lazy when it comes to solar design. They will rely totally on satellite imagery and not check the design on the ground. This is how you get solar proposed for shaded areas, where skylights and roof vents are located, or overhanging thin air. This may be what is happening in the image you shared. </span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">What is unique here is someone actually specified overhanging panels. Looking more closely at the image, a roof outline is shown but it is not clear that the outline is actually situated over a building. It almost looks like there is landscaped area inside the outline.</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">The solution of course is to get on out there, measure the roof and any obstructions and analyze the shading. I use the <a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sun-seeker-tracker-surveyor/id330247123" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sun Seeker</a> app for IOS for the shading analysis.</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches<br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, January 13, 2024 8:47 AM<br /><strong>To:</strong> RE-wrenches<br /><strong>Cc:</strong> <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org" rel="noreferrer">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: Cantilevered array</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Here is a larger snip of the situation.</span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Label says overhang from upper roof. </span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p><em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Athens Electric LLC</span></em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p><em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Ohio Electrical Contractor's License 44810</span></em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p><em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional</span></em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';">I was given a drawing, produced by a very large solar company, showing the array cantilevered over the edge of the roof by several feet. </span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><br /><br /></span><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';"><img id="v1Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:170576625165abed6b4f536254221954@redwoodalliance.org" alt="mailbox:///C:/Users/Chris%20Warfel/AppData/Roaming/Thunderbird/Profiles/lgcjo68n.default-release/Mail/Local%20Folders/WRENCHES?number=4062&header=quotebody&part=1.1.3&filename=image002.png" width="274" height="521" border="0" /></span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"></span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';">Notice how the array hangs out over the lawn for several feet. Is there anyway that this is a legitimate way to mount modules?</span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"></span></p>
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<p><em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">Athens Electric LLC</span></em><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"></span></p>
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