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<div id="signature">This is a new product from Schneider to solve a few of the issues. A recent webinar had the 3 phase issue brought up and this 200A pre wired panel. The 3 phase webinar is next, I heard.....</div>
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<div>Whole home backup or subpanel backup with up to 200<br />A rating<br />• Service entrance rated when installed with a main breaker<br />• Top or bottom entry for grid input<br />• Optional non-backup circuit, making it easy to backup an<br />existing panel and remove select non-critical loads<br />• Fast 50 ms transfer from grid connected to backup power<br />operation<br />• Reliable backup power and load starting performance<br />with the compatible XW Pro inverters<br />• Connect up to 4 XW Pro inverters for up to 27 kW<br />continuous and 48 kW peak backup power capability</div>
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<p id="reply-intro">On 2022-09-08 9:21 am, Eric Smiley via RE-wrenches wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I've worked with a few larger 3-phase Conext XW systems - 3 inverters and 6 inverters.
<div>The inverters' output capabilities are slightly reduced since they have to be converted to 120 V, effectively doubling the output current. Also,they required an external transfer switch. Even with 3 inverters configured for 3-phase, I would recommend an external transfer. The relays have a habit of welding.</div>
<div>Once they were configured properly, there was no problem starting large HVAC loads and even large single phase loads were OK.</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 08:49, Vince McClellan via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">That's a market segment that no inverter company that I know of really makes a product for. </div>
<div dir="ltr">I would probably use 3 Sol-Ark 12K inverters. </div>
<div dir="ltr">You'll have to be careful with load balancing with any Sol-Ark inverter though. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Schneider would also work but you will have a lot of individual components and you would need to be careful that the internal transfer switch is within its 60 amp capacity limit from a generator or other source. With multiple Schneider inverters there is the possibility that not all of the internal transfer switches will trip at exactly the same time causing the transfer switch in one inverter to take the whole load. </div>
<div dir="ltr">I was originally a staunch Outback fan but we've stopped using their products after we had repeated Incidents of equipment not working right out of the box. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">On Sep 8, 2022, at 07:30, Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></blockquote>
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<div dir="auto">Outback FX R can be built to be 3 phase and solark also works, for 30 k l would look at solark, 3 12's or 15's.
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 8, 2022, 4:42 AM Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>What inverter options are there for 3 phase, UL listed, off-grid inverter systems in the 30kW+ category? </div>
<div>It's been quite a while since I dove into this...</div>
<div>Thanks!<br clear="all" />
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