<div dir="auto">We are desperate for a dependable liquid cooled generator in the 12-16 kW range. If quality is there, I could see us installing 10+ a year. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Chris </div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:45 AM Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p><font size="4">The more our local utility tries to suppress
        solar, the more we are taking people off grid, so I would
        estimate 3 a year for our small locale.</font><br>
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    <div>On 7/10/2022 12:53 PM, Tump via
      RE-wrenches wrote:<br>
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      How many folks require UL listing to install, this may expedite
      delivery?<br>
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          <div>On Jul 8, 2022, at 3:09 PM, Dana Orzel via
            RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;
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              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">The question was \u2013 When might these units be
                  available?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">The first request from the manu. was to get a
                  survey of how many units might get sold per year &amp;
                  responses are still trickling in slowly.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">Next Tump &amp; I will be in a zoom meeting
                  with the company powers that be &amp; at that point
                  they need to source &amp; design.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">I would bet it is out aways still depending
                  on equipment choices/availability, testing &amp; UL
                  certification etc.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">I would not even dare to guess but when we ca
                  report back with a date we will do so.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">Dana Orzel -  E -<span> </span><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">dana@solarwork.com</a><span> </span>-  C -
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                  <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span> </span>RE-wrenches
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<span> </span><b>On
                      Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Kevin
                    Pegg via RE-wrenches<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Friday, July
                    8, 2022 12:59 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b><span> </span>RE-wrenches
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Kevin Pegg
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:kpegg@energyalternatives.ca" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">kpegg@energyalternatives.ca</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
                    [RE-wrenches] WATER COOLED - 1800 RPM - 13KW
                    GENERATORS INQUIRY<u></u><u></u></div>
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              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-CA">Thanks for this \u2013 there is certainly
                  demand. I could see my company buying a 3-5 per year.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-CA">Is there any estimate of timeline when
                  these might be available?<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-CA">Kevin<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                  <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span> </span>RE-wrenches
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<span> </span><b>On
                      Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Dana
                    Orzel via RE-wrenches<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>June-30-22
                    11:02 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b><span> </span>&#39;RE-wrenches&#39;
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Dana Orzel
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">dana@solarwork.com</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[RE-wrenches]
                    WATER COOLED - 1800 RPM - 13KW GENERATORS INQUIRY<u></u><u></u></div>
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              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">Hey now all you off grid designer/installers,<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">I just had a conversation with generator
                  manufacturer (name withheld for the moment), about
                  8-13KW water cooled gensets with UL &amp; LP gas
                  powered. I explained that there is a long time hole in
                  the market since Onan &amp; Kohler dropped their
                  gensets for prime power in this size range.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">If they made the investment to produce &amp;
                  UL certify a 13KW - 1800 RPM - water cooled \u2013 2 wire
                  start, prime power rated - 120/240vac genset, how many
                  off grid systems are being installed with oversized
                  gensets?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><u><span>If this was
                      available how many units would each of you be
                      interested in per year?<span> </span></span></u></i><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">I am not asking for a commitment
                  just a market survey for this sized unit.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">If there was 20-30 companies selling 4-5+
                  each per year this might be a possibility.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">Let me know either off list or on list (if
                  this is OK ? Michael let us know) &amp; I hope there
                  is a possibility here for more appropriately sized
                  &amp; available gensets for our off grid client
                  systems.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
              <div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:&#39;Century Gothic&#39;,sans-serif">I will be passing along this research to the
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                  along let me know for now.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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