<div dir="auto">Except if it is UL listed and tested as part of the assembly. Haha. I seriously don't that happened, but technically...<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bottom line, a manufacturer should supply guidance on this.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 1:02 PM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-8292056905346715752WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Tape is not approved as a wire retaining device as far as I can find in the NEC :-]<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Dana Orzel - E - <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dana@solarwork.com</a> - C - 208.721.7003 </span><i><span style="color:#99cc00"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 2, 2022 9:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regarding the tape on the back sheet<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I have seen Novis installers keep the tape to secure the modules and I have also seen it with the tape stll attached to the wires laying on the roof so in my humble opinion the tape is for shipping only and is not to be used as a wire management system. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jerry <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">NABCEP PV Inspector<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 6:37 AM Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi All, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I just got some of the Qcell 360w AC modules that have the Enphase microinverter factory applied to the back. The module is the half cut cell type with the DC leads coming from either side of the middle of the module. The modules come with the wires taped to the back of the module. If you remove that tape, there appears to be almost no way to properly manage those wires. Is that tape meant to just keep the wire on the back of the module forever? Would that even last more than a year? I am curious what other people have done for these if they have used them or something similar. Maybe if you get the rail in the right spot, the wires will just sit on the rail...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I realize that we have had a thread on wire management with half cut cell modules before, but this is a little different, as I am specifically asking about that tape and if anyone knows if it holds up over time.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Cheers, <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dave<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="525" style="width:393.75pt;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px"><tr><td width="125" rowspan="2" valign="top" style="width:93.75pt;border:none;border-right:solid #ecbd00 1.0pt;padding:0in 7.5pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.sungineersolar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#337ab7;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="105" height="103" style="width:1.0937in;height:1.0729in" id="m_-8292056905346715752_x0000_i1025" src="https://sungineersolar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Logo-Image-Only-1.png" alt="Logo"></span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 7.5pt"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px"><tr><td width="400" valign="top" style="width:300.0pt;padding:0in 0in 3.75pt 7.5pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#ecbd00">Dave Tedeyan, P.E.<br>Owner | Sungineer Solar</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:3.75pt 0in 3.75pt 7.5pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.75pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#ecbd00">p: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">he | him | his</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#ecbd00"><br>a: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">1653 Slaterville Rd.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <span style="color:black">| Ithaca, NY 14850</span><br><b><span style="color:#ecbd00">w:</span></b><a href="http://www.sungineersolar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:black"> www.sungineersolar.com</span></a><br><b><span style="color:#ecbd00">c:</span></b><span style="color:black"> (607) 288-2898</span><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"></td></tr></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>There are two list archives for searching. 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