<div dir="auto"><div>What happens with a Sol-Ark 12k in grid-tie with battery backup mode when the battery "disappears?" Does it continue to operate in straight grid-tie mode with only AC connected and DC not present? <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jason</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 6:46 PM Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">That's what I was thinking- a MS4448 would be a nice option with a good surge rating. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm trying to make this work with little to minimal equipment onboard the golf cart. Ideally, the battery would connect to a stationary inverter/charger at the house via a cable/connector. The PV would be permanently mounted also and would be grid-tied for times the battery is not connected. I am thinking this needs to be an AC coupled scenario with a grid-tie inverter that is AC coupled to the battery inverter. I'm hung up on how to safely connect the battery to the inverter (and more importantly, disconnect the battery from the inverter).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Jason</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><tbody></tbody></table><b><div style="text-align:center"><br></div></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><img width="0" height="0" alt="" style="display:flex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 6:29 PM Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Most carts run at 48vdc these days. They either have eight 6 volt <br>
batteries, or six 8 v batteries. I would think that would make a good <br>
match for power backup with a 4kw range inverter like the Magnum MS4448.<br>
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On 3/15/2022 12:18 PM, Nick A Lucchese wrote:<br>
> Not sure what the golf cart fleets are these days but decades ago as a youngster I worked at a course where all the EZ-GO\u2019s were 36v nominal with all Trojan T-105\u2019s. Also uncertain if still available or not but years ago the first Cybo inverters I purchased were also intended for 36v nominal battery banks. Perhaps George and the team still offer that model. It\u2019s obviously a different type of architecture and I didn\u2019t have any luck with the 4 amp 36v charger on the inverter\u2019s AC output that was promoted but surely you could figure your means of charging with perhaps a Flexmax or similar. I had some issues with the hot water heater model but the off grid model consistently performed it\u2019s inverting function assuming there was a fan or some sort of resistive or inductive load to keep the inverter awake. The only other 36v inverter I can think of was the Heart Transverter which was a big loss for a few of us.<br>
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>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 3:48 PM, Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Every now and then I get questions here in the land of hurricanes and golf courses about using golf carts as the battery bank for a permanently mounted grid-tie home PV system in a backup scenario. Does anyone have any ideas on a good way to do something like this? The battery would need to be able to be unplugged of course (not under load I hope!) It's mostly DIY'ers trying to cobble together a solution for a small critical load panel for their home.<br>
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>> The idea is becoming more popular as people hear about using EVs for home backup. I'd like to get ahead of it and maybe even offer a solution that's safe, legal, and functional.<br>
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>> Jason Szumlanski<br>
>> Florida Solar Design Group<br>
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