<div dir="auto">Windy:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for the info. I have been in contact with Sun Pumps. They can sell me a pump that will work off of a high voltage battery bank (greater than 90 VDC and likely much higher). However they cannot provide or recommend a charge controller to output PV charge at the higher voltage. Do you or any wrench know of a high voltage charge controller on the market?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks in advance.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">William </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 8:29 AM Windy Dankoff <<a href="mailto:windydankoff@mac.com">windydankoff@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div>Dear William,</div><div><br></div><div>SunPumps has a new helical rotor submersible series (positive displacement) that is typically much more efficient for high lift compared to a normal multi-stage centrifugal sub (you'll have to compare the specs).</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.sunpumps.com/Products/HR%2010-525%20AC%20DC" target="_blank">https://www.sunpumps.com/Products/HR%2010-525%20AC%20DC</a></div><div><br></div><div>I have no inside-knowledge of this item, but it's based on good technology similar to Lorentz and Grundfos and SunPumps is on the same level as a world leader.</div><div><br></div><div>With any DC pump, you need to be sure it's compatible with battery power if you need 24/7.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope you'll let us know how it goes.</div><div><br></div><div>Windy</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>From:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Subject:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>[RE-wrenches] 24/7 wATER pUMPING</b><br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Date:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">March 8, 2022 at 7:53:37 AM MST<br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>To:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Reply-To:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>><br></span></div><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Friends:</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I have a client that wishes to pump water at about 10 GPM from spring through autumn equinoxes. Lift is 300 feet. (This is the project that will not siphon beyond 33 feet.)</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I can design a solar/battery/inverter system for this purpose but I am wondering if there is a direct DC option. I am going to look at the Grundfos SQ-Flex tables to see if this is an option.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Does anyone out there have any advice on best approach to this project?</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Thanks in advance,</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">William Miller</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Miller Solar</span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">805-438-5600</span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span 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href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Subject:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re: [RE-wrenches] 24/7 wATER pUMPING</b><br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Date:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">March 8, 2022 at 8:58:16 AM MST<br></span></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>To:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>>, RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br></span></div><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">William<div>Here is the deal it will be simplest to go AC for the pump because of the requirement of high voltage DC yes there are small er output DC pumps but that is not what you need, first find a AC pump that can do the required 10 GPM at 300 feet of head then design a inverter to fit that bill PV to recharge that usage and then some. look at the first and last day of the desired water demand and go the shorted day as a production base line. When looking at pumps grundfus is very efficient in DC and wild AC but at a cost so look at options output vs input. I have done this with Grundus and DC direct to a 50K storage tank at the very top of the property so it can be done with DC so AC just requires additional nighttime. </div><div>Here might be an option large enough storage tank to fill every night and a pump big enough to drain it every day, this can be done DC direct, cheaper and less moving parts and the pump can run on a genny if you have bad weather for days, This is how the ones I have done work.</div><div>Jerry</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>William Miller<br>Miller Solar.com<br>895-438-5600<br><a href="http://www.millersolar.com">www.millersolar.com</a><br></div>