<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm with William on this one. We use stainless PV cable clips and the Quickmount PV stainless PV clips that fit QRail or IronRidge. I forbid plastic cable ties on the roof except for the temporary positioning of wires.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Jason Szumlanski</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Florida Solar Design Group</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2"></td><td rowspan="2"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(237,237,237);color:rgb(85,85,85);font-size:13px;padding-left:10px"><tbody><tr><td style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></td></tr><tr><td style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></td></tr><tr><td colspan="1"><br></td></tr><tr><td colspan="1"><br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><b><div style="text-align:center"><br></div></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><img width="0" height="0" class="mailtrack-img" alt="" style="display:flex" src="https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/7cdd1e040633cb5edb56bf3cce5f1a0cbca3a667.png?u=1613865"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 3:28 PM William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4603954021576779359WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Michael:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I recommend avoiding cables ties behind PV panels, either roof or ground mount. With the proper racking and technique none should be required. See photo below:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><img width="840" height="1120" id="gmail-m_4603954021576779359Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:b13e41e6ac5f4681_0.1" alt="cid:image001.jpg@01D83799.96A06E50"></span><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">This panel will lay down without any cable sag or need to reach under to apply cable ties. We call this the hinge technique\u2014all cables are lead to a hinge point with just the right amount of slack to allow pinch and sag free installation.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">William Miller</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/e13d831513374d333c173ebc28f09cf77a6905a4?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millersolar.com%2F&userId=1613865&signature=658ba6a1109300b7" target="_blank">www.millersolar.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Morningstar<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 13, 2022 3:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Cable Ties</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Wrenches,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Who makes the best cable ties, and which part number for under PV wire management? I keep going back to past projects where I used quality high-heat resistant UV rated Panduit and Burndy ties that became brittle.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Michael<br clear="all"></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- </p><div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif"">Michael Morningstar</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif""> </span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif"">Morningstar Electric</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif"">PO Box 1494</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif"">Mount Shasta, CA 96067</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif"">530-921-0560</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif""><a href="mailto:mjmorningstar@gmail.com" target="_blank">mjmorningstar@gmail.com</a></span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif""><img border="0" width="200" height="118" id="gmail-m_4603954021576779359_x0000_i1025" src="cid:b13e41e6ac5f4681_0.2" alt="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1b-LBqVnDNhKvT0Y-8fGS4zE62U6pMrsz&export=download"></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,"sans-serif""></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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