<div dir="auto">William<div dir="auto">Are you sure RSD is required on a non habitable building, historically its not required. Now that being said we use fire raptor with the best results, yes it takes an extra conduite and might require a button and power supply depending on inverter application.</div><div dir="auto">Jerry</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 9:57 AM William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_8583279663636586131WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Friends:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">It is quite rare for us to install off-grid systems on roof-tops. We have one coming up with about 20kW on a large barn roof. This will be our first off-grid with a module-level rapid shutdown requirement. I see no exemptions from RSS for off-grid systems in the code. I have looked at the options and this is what I have found:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="m_8583279663636586131MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Fire Raptor</span></p><p class="m_8583279663636586131MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Tigo TS4-F</span></p><p class="m_8583279663636586131MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">AC coupling with micro-inverters or optimizers</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">No one of these approaches seems ideal. The fire raptor requires extra wiring for control leads. The Tigo requires a wireless control system which worries me about reliability. With AC Coupling systems floating the proposed AGM batteries may be awkward. Furthermore, with AC coupled systems one cannot charge batteries unless the mini-grid is operational, a big problem.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Have any of you implemented module-level RSS on a battery-based inverter system? I looked in the archives and found no threads that apply. Thank in advance.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">William Miller</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">www.millersolar.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div>
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