<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Most all the companies use the same Samsung batteries. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Here is a video about someone checking that out. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Plhxnrba2D8">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Plhxnrba2D8</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jay </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Ray <ray@solarray.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<span>I've had great luck with the Milwaukee M18; I almost never bring in my tool batteries anymore, unless its going to be below 0. Love the cordless shop vac.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I also use Ryobi, for my less used tools (ie.circular saw) and they have excellent performance for the money. Not quite as temperature forgiving though.</span><br><span></span><br><span>As for Milwaukee chucks jamming up; I only had that happen once after a bunch of hammer drilling in Haiti. Scrounged all over the village for the special star keys to take apart the chuck, but it just needed to be cleaned.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ray Walters</span><br><span>Remote Solar</span><br><span>303 505-8760</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 1/20/22 10:24 AM, Dana Orzel wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Really Happy with the Milwaukee M18 volt series. Various sized batteries available, & there have to be 150+ tools in the M18 series. I got into the Milwaukee 28 volt originally & what a nightmare; too heavy, replacement batteries were $$$ & life span on the battery was not good.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have been told the Milwaukee power tools have steel gears not plastic. The impacts are bomber solid.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So far cold weather operation is good, no noticeable deficiencies. & I have charged them very cold so the battery charger BM is fairly smart/sensitive. I have noticed if really cold the charger says "broken Battery"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I Loved the small cooler & reptile heater idea! Great idea!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>C - 208.721.7003 dana@solarwork.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>\uf050 Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:32 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion tool batteries</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What lithium battery powered tool brand that has the best performance in freezing weather? My 10 year old+ Makita tool set isn't nearly as powerful as some newer tools. Even with new batteries, the tools have sufficient power in cold weather.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What is the best brand for cold weather operation?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Drake</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Drake Chamberlin</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Athens Electric LLC</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ohio Electrical Contractor\u2019s License 44810 CO Master Electrician\u2019s License 4526 NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>---</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 2022-01-19 11:58, Alex MeVay wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Generally, storage or use at cold temperatures shouldn't be an issue,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>as long as the battery can still deliver enough power to operate the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>tool effectively.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Charging though...at cold temperatures, ion mobility goes down. If</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the battery is charged too fast, the lithium ions can't make it into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the graphite anode fast enough and they start to plate out as metallic</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lithium. At best, this results in a permanent reduction in capacity.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Next worst from there, the lithium metal can create an internal soft</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>short, immediately or at a later point in time, resulting in high</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-discharge or a dead cell. Worst case, it turns into a hard short</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and a fire.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In theory, the BMS or charger should prevent charging too fast or too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>cold, but who knows if an edge-case like this is actually implemented</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>correctly on any particular battery system. 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