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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Friends:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A couple of years ago we installed an all sealed Outback FX system. All of the FX inverters were equipped with Turbo fans which connect to the relay in the inverters so those were not available for generator starting. A senior Outback tech support person (one who has been with Outback for a long time) told me the relay in the FNDC was not reliable. Instead it was suggested that I use the relay in an Outback Extreme charge controller that was part of the system. I never tried the relay in the FNDC so I don\u2019t have first-hand knowledge if the relay is reliable or not. Can anyone confirm or debunk this assertion?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Remember the <a href="https://outbackpower.com/products/discontinued-products/discontinued-product-documentation/item/flexmax-extreme-technical-documentation">Extreme</a>? It was the precursor to the FlexMax 100. It is discontinued.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">William</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/"><span style="color:blue">www.millersolar.com</span></a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">CA Lic. 773985</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Morningstar<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Actually I\u2019m using the 12V relay to activate a battery vent fan. For generator starting, I\u2019m using the dry contact relay for two-wire start. I have the circuit protected by a 2amp fast acting fuse. Fuse is good.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Tuss, Lones <<a href="mailto:lones.tuss@enersys.com">lones.tuss@enersys.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Michael</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It sound like you are using the 12 volt aux out on the radian to activate a separate relay.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If so disconnect the relay then check and see if the 12 aux attempts to go high (12v dc).</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If it does it may be a relay issue.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The Radian does have an on board relay you could use that instead of a discrete relay.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In AGS on the Mate3(s) just select Relay.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I hope this helps sir.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Take Care</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michael Morningstar<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 14, 2021 10:55 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left"><tr><td style="background:#bba555;padding:5.25pt 5.5pt 5.25pt 1.5pt;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"></td><td width="100%" style="width:100.0%;background:#ffe599;padding:5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:1.3pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#212121">CAUTION:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#212121"> </span></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#212121">This email originated from outside of the Company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div></td></tr></table><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Wrenches,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I\u2019ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay responsible for generator starting. I\u2019ve power cycled everything and updated firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay does not close.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Which board do I order and what is the best source?</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Many thanks,</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Michael</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#707070">Michael Morningstar</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Morningstar Electric</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">PO Box 1494</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Mount Shasta, California 96067</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">530-921-0560</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">CSLB 949635</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> <image001.gif></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><br><br>This email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended only for the recipient(s). 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