<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">HI Michael,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It was for 2 reasons. &nbsp;If both relays are bad then yes the board needs replacing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But also its easy to work in the radian to add a 12v relay cube to give you the dry contact you need. &nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Vs going into the back of the FNDC. &nbsp;And I don\u2019t know what anyone else has heard but OB tech support told me years ago not to use the FNDC relay for AGS.</div><div class="">I had been using it for AGS and was having some intermittent issues. Changed it to the inverter and didn\u2019t have any more issues.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here is the relay that you need to make it dry contact.</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.allelectronics.com/item/rly-351/12vdc-spdt-40a-automotive-relay/1.html" class="">https://www.allelectronics.com/item/rly-351/12vdc-spdt-40a-automotive-relay/1.html</a></div><div class="">the wiring socket is on the same page.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I prefer using this method as this relay is really cheap and easy to replace and very reliable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">jay</div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Michael Morningstar &lt;<a href="mailto:mjmorningstar@gmail.com" class="">mjmorningstar@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I did not check whether or not the 12v relay was functional.<div class="">I think I see where you are going. If the 12V relay isn\u2019t working also, then the issue is elsewhere? Is that correct?</div><div class="">&nbsp;<div class="">I did look into using the FNDC relay, however it appears that it\u2019s control is through the FNDC menu. Things are so simple when all my client has to do to control the generator is push the GEN button and choose a mode. Searching for the FNDC menu adds a layer of complexity.</div><div class="">However,</div><div class="">What I\u2019m seeing is that the board that the relay is on is part of a stack boards that costs 2K. So, it sounds like my options are to check to see if the 12v relay functions and then use that to drive a relay, or use the FNDC relay, or spend 2k for the board stack.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Michael</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Jay &lt;<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" class="">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">There are two relays on that board, one dry one 12v.&nbsp;</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Aux output</div><div dir="ltr" class="">And</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Aux relay</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Do both not work?</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Jay</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Michael Morningstar &lt;<a href="mailto:mjmorningstar@gmail.com" class="">mjmorningstar@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">\ufeff<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class="">Wrenches,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I\u2019ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay responsible for generator starting. I\u2019ve power cycled everything and updated firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay does not close.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Which board do I order and what is the best source?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Many thanks,</div><div class="">Michael</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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