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<div dir="auto">With outback fire raptor has been successful, it
has a power supply and if you shut the inverter or use the
button either will shut off the RSD. This is all it is no
optimizer, no data, no bypass for shade just RSD.
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<div dir="auto">So who has a good reliable off grid RSD? It
all looks like failure prone garbage to me.<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I would once again say
that; we as an industry can influence not only the
writing of the code but with what we are <i>buying</i>
OR <i>not buying.</i>
<div>If the devices we are required to install to make
things \u201cmore safe & reliable\u201d, at the cost of our
livelihoods & reputations, we all need to make the
folks that are building the RSD crap and those who
require installation of questionably safe &
reliable crap aware of these problems.</div>
<div>WE can thru either going to the code development
meetings AND NOT buying or installing this stuff. Not
too easy when a huge amount of solar is rooftop
installs. As many of the installers in the NE know its
not a single level ranch were installing this stuff
on, short season & man lift required.</div>
<div>Tell your supplier why you are not buying that
brand, let your supplier & folks on the list what
manufacture has good reliable products AND tech
support that we can understand, who we can get in a
timely fashion, and get the satisfaction of a prompt
replacement. IF we don\u2019t sell it they won\u2019t have a
job or a market.</div>
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<div>Did you get any kind of joy out of
APSmart on that failure? </div>
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<div>I will say that their tech support guy
did at least try to be helpful, but the
language barrier was really really steep and
their distribution channels are less than
ideal. Their response to a request for
compensation was that they would not be
profitable if they had to pay for truck
rolls for such a low cost item. I really
don\u2019t think they GET IT. We\u2019ve been in
business for over 16yrs and this one failure
could easily have ended that run.</div>
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<div>I cannot imagine we\u2019re alone here. I was
told by AP that their failure rate was 0.2%.
Now, I come from a reliability engineering
background in petro chemical/ big pharma
where a 0.2% failure rate would be
catastrophic. Can you imagine that 2 out of
every 1000 pills made could cause death? We
engineered secondary systems and multiple
quality checks to contain catastrophic
consequences for components that had know
failure rates higher than acceptable
values. A simple solution to this fire
initiation issue would be a metal enclosure
instead of plastic casing. That still
doesn\u2019t really solve the problem of extra
connections though.<br>
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