<div dir="ltr">Yes, NEC is vague on this but we have seen this as well. I think you may need a <u>Simpliphi Access</u> cabinet like this to get the listing: <a href="https://simpliphipower.com/product/access-phi-sol-ark/">https://simpliphipower.com/product/access-phi-sol-ark/</a><div><br></div><div>This is UL listed to 9540 even though its probably very similar to what you have designed.<br><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, this takes away quite a bit of the design freedom that is necessary for robust designs for all of the different needs our clients have.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:05 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p>Sounds like California Loren?</p>
<p>I use Schneider and they have UL9540 certs.</p>
<p>Here is a link to them and yes I have been asked this locally.</p>
<p><a href="https://solar.schneider-electric.com/schneider-electric-solar-and-discover-battery-attain-ul-9540-certification-for-xw-pro-and-aes-batteries/" target="_blank">https://solar.schneider-electric.com/schneider-electric-solar-and-discover-battery-attain-ul-9540-certification-for-xw-pro-and-aes-batteries/</a></p>
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<p>On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 10:22:43 -0700, Lorenzo Ortiz <<a href="mailto:lorenzo@cal-solar.com" target="_blank">lorenzo@cal-solar.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<div>We have recently had an AHJ reject our Solark 12k system with Simpliphi batteries stating:</div>
<div><em><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">"Energy storage systems are required to be listed per UL 9540 per NEC 706.5 (See also Annex A in the NEC, under energy storage systems).</span><strong style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline"> The Sol-Ark system is not listed and tested per UL 9540 but is only listed per UL 1741</span></strong><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">. </span><strong><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">The complete system (ie. batteries, inverter, and any other components associated with the energy storage system) must be listed per UL 9540</span></strong><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">. Please provide documentation and certification sheets (from a Nationally Recognized Testing Lab (NRTL)) for both the batteries and SolArk inverter to show that all components are tested and certified per UL 9540. If it cannot be shown that the batteries are tested and listed with SolArk inverters per UL 9540, then </span>such system<span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"> cannot be installed and a different system that is listed and tested per UL 9540 must be chosen for the project.</span></em></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Have any of you run into this with Solark? Is the plans-checker in the wrong about the entire system needing to meet the standard and not just the batteries? The code language is kind of confusing. I can't find any documentation on Solark's website regarding UL 9540. I know Tesla and Simpliphi have recently put out documentation regarding this.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks in advance for your help.<br clear="all"></span>
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