<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I have two of the inverters from Cyboenergy that I purchased about 6 years back. The off grid N model works fairly well with medium to large loads but will not run to operate things like Makita battery chargers or other small electronics unless another base load like a fan is added. It definitely never operated in the manner by running it\u2019s own battery charger that they sold and marketed. I believe the newer unit accepts higher PV voltage now as well as the ability to operate with 48v nominal battery banks while initially it was only 36v. Overall I concluded the only application for it was to run something simple like a large AC fan. The hot water heater model never worked for me either and all I ever got from them was excuses. It\u2019s possible these products have evolved and improved but at the time it seemed like the founder was over burdened since he was also the one providing tech support. At $1100 each it was an expensive experiment much like the Heart Transverter I purchased in that same time frame. Both were hard lessons on trying to support the little guy. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Seems like the Phocos Anygrid would be a better option if going down that road. I\u2019ve been wanting to purchase one for awhile now but have no experience with it yet although I\u2019ve been impressed with Phocos products in the past.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nick</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 13, 2021, at 1:59 PM, <a href="mailto:rick@solshineenergy.com" class="">rick@solshineenergy.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">There\u2019s this company. I don\u2019t have any experience with their products but the concept is promising. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://cyboenergy.com/" class="">http://cyboenergy.com/</a><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">rick brown<br class="">SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC<br class="">Electrical & Solar Contracting Services<br class=""><a href="http://www.SolShineEnergy.com" class="">www.SolShineEnergy.com</a><br class="">Check, Virginia 24072</span><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">O: 540.235.3095<br class="">M: 540.808.9502<br class=""><br class="">VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660<br class="">VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762<br class="">VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer <br class="">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 13, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Ray <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" class="">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">\ufeff
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class=""><p class="">We've done some off grid EV charging, and one thing that makes
life much easier, is to go to the lower power chargers. So far,
we've just done PV to battery inverter to AC charger to car. less
efficient, but less trouble. We've also setup dedicated charging
outlets/ circuits on relays to prioritize the house battery. <br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/13/21 4:29 PM,
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<div class="">You can charge with DC directly from a PV solar
array without an inverter or regulator. The current is self
limiting by the amount of PV solar power you are making at any
moment.</div>
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<div class="">The magic is knowing know how to trigger the charge
port communications so your EV controller knows that there is a
safe connection to a DC power source. Perhaps the will get you
started: </div>
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<div class="">Our car gobbles 11,500W when it's plugged in
to the grid. Even if we reduced the charge rate it
would still be a heck of a draw - the chargers in the
EVs are greedy. I'll be curious to hear if anyone has a
solution, but my bet is that you need to give the EV a
deep well to pull from (probably deeper than a battery
bank or PV array can directly and consistently satisfy).</div>
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I am interested in EV charging with no grid
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