<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">There\u2019s this company. I don\u2019t have any experience with their products but the concept is promising.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><a href="http://cyboenergy.com/">http://cyboenergy.com/</a><br><br><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">rick brown<br>SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC<br>Electrical &amp; Solar Contracting Services<br>www.SolShineEnergy.com<br>Check, Virginia 24072</span><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">O: 540.235.3095<br>M: 540.808.9502<br><br>VA Class A Contractor Lic#&nbsp;2705147660<br>VA Master Electrician Lic#&nbsp;2710062762<br>VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional&nbsp;110112-21</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 13, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Ray &lt;ray@solarray.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff
  
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    <p>We've done some off grid EV charging, and one thing that makes
      life much easier, is to go to the lower power chargers.&nbsp; So far,
      we've just done PV to battery inverter to AC charger to car.&nbsp; less
      efficient, but less trouble.&nbsp; We've also setup dedicated charging
      outlets/ circuits on relays to prioritize the house battery.&nbsp; <br>
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Remote Solar
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/13/21 4:29 PM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:larry@starlightsolar.com">larry@starlightsolar.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">You can charge with DC directly from a PV solar
        array without an inverter or regulator. The current is self
        limiting by the amount of PV solar power you are making at any
        moment.</div>
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      <div class="">The magic is knowing know how to trigger the charge
        port communications so your EV controller knows that there is a
        safe connection to a DC power source. Perhaps the will get you
        started:&nbsp;</div>
      <div class=""><a href="https://www.evcreate.nl/chademo-fast-charging-in-diy/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.evcreate.nl/chademo-fast-charging-in-diy/</a></div>
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                <div class="">Be safe when working with 500Vdc.</div>
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          <div class="">On Apr 12, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Matt Sherald &lt;<a href="mailto:matt@getpimby.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">matt@getpimby.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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              <div class="">Mac,</div>
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              <div class="">Our car gobbles 11,500W when it's plugged in
                to the grid.&nbsp; Even if we reduced the charge rate it
                would still be a heck of a draw - the chargers in the
                EVs are greedy.&nbsp; I'll be curious to hear if anyone has a
                solution, but my bet is that you need to give the EV a
                deep well to pull from (probably deeper than a battery
                bank or PV array can directly and consistently satisfy).</div>
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              <div class="">-Matt<br class="">
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at
                7:55 PM Mac Lewis &lt;<a href="mailto:maclewis1@gmail.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">maclewis1@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br class="">
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                <div dir="ltr" class="">Sorry, I should have clarified,
                  I am interested in EV charging with no grid
                  available.&nbsp; I think that Solaredge requires a grid</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 12, 2021
                    at 5:51 PM Dana Orzel &lt;<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dana@solarwork.com</a>&gt;
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b>
                            RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;
                            <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Mac Lewis<br class="">
                            <b class="">Sent:</b> Monday, April 12, 2021
                            5:24 PM<br class="">
                            <b class="">To:</b> RE-wrenches &lt;<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>&gt;<br class="">
                            <b class="">Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] PV
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hey wrenches,</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Are there any
                              purpose&nbsp;built inverters designed to charge
                              an EV,&nbsp; PV direct without batteries?</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance</p>
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