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<p>I had a similar experience, although I only installed Concorde
SunXtenders, never using the Lifeline equivalents. After a few
early experiences with SunXtenders lasting more than ten years in
off grid use (usually the 12V 8Ds, in both series and parallel
configurations), I sold and recommended them. Indeed, it was these
early experiences that led me to promote AGM batteries in my 2010
Home Power off-grid batteries article. Since then, I had leakage
issues with several sets of their 2-volt 900 and 1200 AH batteries
- this is going back 7-9 years. In that same time period we were
seeing premature loss of capacity in their 6-volt batteries,
primarily the 400AH L16s and 300AH GC2Talls. I stopped
recommending them and switched to Fullrivers (and more recently
some equivalent Centennials, the house brand of battery
distributor Battery Systems) and have had no failures of any sort
yet - time will tell.</p>
<p>Allan<br>
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<p>On 3/18/2021 10:39 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:larry@starlightsolar.com">larry@starlightsolar.com</a> wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:6B190E5A-EDC5-47F9-9450-F19558745B1D@starlightsolar.com">FWIW,
after selling Lifeline for about 13 years, we discontinued
sales due to early battery failures. The capacity loss of a
single battery in a series bank became very high to where some
battery banks needed replacing in 1-3 years. Earlier batteries
(from about 2001) were lasting 6 to 10 years. We had one
customer that followed our recommendation to use high voltage
and equalize regularly that had the batteries for 13 years
before changing to Li-ion. That battery bank (12kWh, average
discharge about 20% DoD) was sold to someone who is still
using it. <br>
<div class="">The early batteries were great and had our
highest recommendation. We changed to installing Fullriver
instead which has been as good as the early Lifeline
batteries. <br>
<div class="">I spoke with Lifeline about the early failures
and their conclusion was that we or our customers were
doing something wrong. We have probably installed over 600
Lifeline battery systems (2S2P and larger) over the years
using practically identical power systems. I\u2019m sure we did
not decrease the care of our installations or customer
education on proper use. I would like to know if anyone
else experienced premature Lifeline failures, especially
if it is recent.
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<div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;"
class="">Larry Crutcher</span><br
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<span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Starlight
Solar Power Systems</span><br style="orphans:
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<div class="">On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, <a
href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org"
class="">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Hello Wrenches,<br class="">
Is there any reason to use Concorde Sun Xtender
batteries instead of Concorde Lifeline batteries
with PV systems?<br class="">
The Lifeline is what is available from my supplier
at this time?<br class="">
Thanks,<br class="">
Drake</div>
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