<div dir="auto"><div>True, but batteries that require service have their own working space requirements. I am referring specifically to batteries that are not service. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would have no problem working safely on a panelboard above Powerwalls stacked 3 deep, but I recognize that it is a violation nonetheless. I like the idea of building out the wall.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 1:28 AM Ray <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>This isn't just a Li+ issue, this has been a problem going all
the way back to the 90s. Basically many AHJs don't catch it, but
its still a violation. We either keep the battery cabinet
shallow, or we put the battery cabinet to the side. Just use
some common sense, if you are having to lean awkwardly over or
around something to get to the breakers, its probably a
violation. <br>
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<pre cols="72">Ray Walters
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<div>On 1/31/21 5:55 PM, Jason Szumlanski
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<div dir="auto">I'm reading that the working space must be down to
the floor/grade with the exception of other equipment extending
up to 6 inches deeper than the enclosure for which the working
space applies.
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<div dir="auto">For example, technically you can't put a 32 inch
deep base cabinet and countertop below a load center. I see it
all the time, but inspectors around here in some jurisdictions
will not allow it. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I seriously doubt I would be flagged for a 24
inch deep battery enclosure below a 12 inch deep inverter with
integrated disconnects, but by the book it seems like a
violation. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 5:38 PM
Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto"> <span style="font-family:sans-serif"> l
dont know that this NEC code applies in the way you are
reading or understanding it, I do see where foreign
components are restricted with in the space. We</span> have
systems with two or three outback radians above blueplanet
batteries and have not seen an issue. The BPE's are in an
enclosed cabinet fire approved and protected from shock,
putting batteries further away will create space issues.
Since all of these components are required for the "system"
to operate they are necessary.
<div dir="auto">Jerry</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 31, 2021,
12:28 PM Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm
seeing a lot of pictures of LiPO battery systems and
people are mounting equipment above them like load
centers, inverters with disconnects, and other
serviceable enclosures. Some of these battery systems
are 24 inches deep or more. This seems to violate NEC
110.26 requirements for the other serviceable
equipment, but the pictures are proudly displayed as
models of success. Even slender Tesla Powerwalls stick
out significantly when stacked 2 or 3 deep and would
be more than 6 inches deeper than a standard load
center. Sure, the battery cabinets make great places
to rest tools while working, but does anyone else see
this as problematic? </div>
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