<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">At least when we sold these they were not listed. We got caught on this a couple of times in WA state and were not allowed to install them. Also Grundfos said not to use a Gfi with them. Maybe a dc gfi might be ok on the PV side of the CU200. <div><br></div><div>Brad<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Oct 27, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><p>If it is all Grundfos electronics and the panels they specify, then I would get a permit and let the inspector make the decision.</p>
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<p>On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 12:11:17 -0700, Brian Mehalic <<a href="mailto:brian@solarenergy.org">brian@solarenergy.org</a>> wrote:</p>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:40 AM jay <<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">HI All,<br> <br> I've got a question about GFDI requirements and do they apply to the following. <br> <br> Here is the project.<br> <br> 1. water pumping DC direct grundfos SQFLex <br> <br> 2. no humans anywhere around<br> <br> 3. no buildings or living structures<br> <br> 4. would be 3 pole mounts: each mount as 1 string, so 3 strings.<br> 2019 code 690.41 B2 says that 2 modules in parallel without humans involved doesn't need GFDI<br> <br> 5. system would be solidly grounded.<br> <br> So what is the requirement for needing GFDI on this project?<br> <br> thanks<br> <br> jay<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br> <br> List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> Change listserver email address & settings:<br> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:<br> <a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/">https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/</a><br> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> List rules & etiquette:<br> <a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br> <br> Check out or update participant bios:<br> <a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">http://www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br> </blockquote>
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