<div dir="ltr">Like Kirk, I have installed a few StorEdge inverters successfully without batteries. You do have to change a few of the default programming settings, but they seem to work fine without the LG Chem pack.<br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Shine On!<br><br>Kris Schmid<br>Legacy Solar, LLC<br>137 West 1st Avenue<br>Luck, WI 54853<br><a href="http://www.legacysolar.com" target="_blank">www.legacysolar.com</a><br>715-653-4295<br>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician<br>BSEE<div style="padding:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px;overflow:hidden;word-wrap:break-word;color:black;font-size:10px;text-align:left;line-height:130%"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:48 PM Kirk Herander, VSE <kirkh@vermont.solar> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div id="gmail-m_-2189590379039370461__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
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<p style="color:rgb(170,170,170);margin-top:10px">On 10/5/2020 12:08:18 PM, Jeff Clearwater <<a href="mailto:jeffc@villagepowerdesign.com" target="_blank">jeffc@villagepowerdesign.com</a>> wrote:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hey Wrenches,<br>
<br>
I should have been more specific in my question.<br>
<br>
I'm well aware of the advantages of true-off grid inverters and the
expansion routes of Sol-Arks or Sunny Islands as well as their price
point! Serious surge, serious battery expansion capability, stacking
etc. However that all comes with a price . . .<br>
<br>
What I'm needing here is a simple 7.6 KW grid-tie inverter with minimal
(15KWH) backup upgrade route. No big expectations on the backup or
surge - just minimal backup at an affordable price.<br>
<br>
So in that world - I know the PWRcell works well without batteries - but
I have less experience with StorEdge or SkyBox. And the PWRcell is a
new beast perhaps since Pika was acquired? I know Generac has been
upgrading . . .<br>
Any experience with any of these in grid-tie mode with no batteries?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
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<div style="color:rgb(144,154,164);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px">Sol-ark
will function w/o batteries. Pretty straightforward installation with no
need for a separate charge controller.<br><div><br></div><br><div>
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Hey Esteemed colleagues.<br>
<br>
I'm curious which GTBB inverters folks are installing when the customer
can't afford batteries right away.<br>
<br>
How do StorEdges, Skyboxes, PWRCells perform in purely grid-tied mode
with no battery and any advantages - disadvantages of various options
folks want to point out or considerations for the upgrade path of each?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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