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                                        Storedge 7.6kw inverter functions fine without batteries. I've had one working for a year like this, waiting for the customer to pull the trigger on LG Chem RESU set.<br><div><br></div><div class="mb_sig"><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial;font-size: 16px;margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt"><a name="_MailAutoSig"><b>Kirk Herander /&nbsp;</b></a><b><a href="mailto:kirkh@vermont.solar" title="Send an email to kirkh@vermont.solar" style="cursor: pointer; color: blue;">kirkh@vermont.solar</a></b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial;font-size: 16px;margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt"><b>Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial;font-size: 16px;margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt"><b><i>Celebrating our 29<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;Anniversary 1991-2020</i></b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Arial;font-size: 16px;margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt"><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645&amp;sdata=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D&amp;reserved=0" title="Click to open in a new window or tab
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                        <p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">On 10/5/2020 12:08:18 PM, Jeff Clearwater &lt;jeffc@villagepowerdesign.com&gt; wrote:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hey Wrenches,<br>

<br>

I should have been more specific in my question.<br>

<br>

I'm well aware of the advantages of true-off grid inverters and the 
expansion routes of Sol-Arks or Sunny Islands as well as their price 
point!&nbsp; Serious surge, serious battery expansion capability, stacking 
etc.&nbsp; However that all comes with a price . . .<br>

<br>

What I'm needing here is a simple 7.6 KW grid-tie inverter with minimal 
(15KWH) backup upgrade route.&nbsp; No big expectations on the backup or 
surge - just minimal backup at an affordable price.<br>

<br>

So in that world - I know the PWRcell works well without batteries - but
 I have less experience with StorEdge or SkyBox.&nbsp; And the PWRcell is a 
new beast perhaps since Pika was acquired?&nbsp; I know Generac has been 
upgrading . . .<br>

Any experience with any of these in grid-tie mode with no batteries?<br>

<br>

Thanks,<br>

<br>

Jeff<br>

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Hey Esteemed colleagues.<br>
  <br>
I'm curious which GTBB inverters folks are installing when the customer 
can't afford batteries right away.<br>
  <br>
How do StorEdges, Skyboxes, PWRCells perform in purely grid-tied mode 
with no battery and any advantages - disadvantages of various options 
folks want to point out or considerations for the upgrade path of each?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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