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    <p>August,</p>
    <p>            Quite frankly and with due respect about the comment
      about more PV and battery to forego the need for a generator, I
      disagree. Those folks living off-grid in the sticks (um,er, myself
      included), it would be a very bad thing not to have Gen input. 
      The current situation here in Plumas county  (and many other
      counties right now) is another perfect example.  It is so smokey
      that my daily KWhrs has been cut in half and of course every other
      off-grid home is having the same issue. This has been going on for
      almost a month with only occasional breaks.  There are also CC
      failures, FET board craps out, other excrement occurs.<br>
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    <p>            We all know there are many critical needs for power
      especially to run a pump for fire protection, frig for food,
      communication to know what the hell may coming your way during
      some event (fire, flood, bad weather) medical needs, etc.  In the
      winter there are at least a few times when there is little or no
      sun for 1 maybe 2 weeks...that gets to be a spendy array and
      battery.  Certainly, the idea of going that route works for some
      scenarios but not off-grid.  Generators are still a much needed
      necessary evil.  Maybe its a big deal to incorporate that feature
      in an inverter??  Sounds like bean counting.<br>
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    <p>My $.02 worth</p>
    <p>Bill</p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Feather River Solar Electric            
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.frenergy.net">www.frenergy.net</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/11/2020 1:01 PM, August Goers
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      <div dir="ltr">In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied
        support features driven by SGIP + backup (public safety power
        shutoffs, folks who live in less stable grid areas, folks
        worried about natural disasters) so the ESS is designed to
        replace generators. This might be a little trickier for areas
        that need air conditioning during a grid outage (or for all
        electric homes), but one tactic is just to go bigger with the
        ESS and PV system. I guess what I'm saying is that the value
        proposition might already be getting better just to skip the
        generator and go bigger with the storage. Even Generac might be
        going that route.
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          AM Jason Szumlanski &lt;<a
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                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We are
                seeing tons of companies in Florida offering
                Generac/Pika now. They didn't do it when it was Pika, so
                why would they now that it has an orange label? Crazy. </div>
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                generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for
                a generator manufacturer.</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at
                12:58 PM Chris Schaefer &lt;<a
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                <div dir="ltr">Jeremy,
                  <div>Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as
                    their PWR cell. Most of the old crew from Pika are
                    now working for Generac. It's beyond me that Generac
                    bought them and yet they still don't have a
                    generator input. That's why I could never sign on to
                    the Pika product line. Good luck.</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 11, 2020
                    at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:allsolarjeremy@msn.com"
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                      If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The
                      former PIKA ENERGY support group, please contact
                      me off list. 
                      <div>Or if anyone knows where one could get one of
                        their inverters rebuilt/repaired let me know.<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Jeremy Rodriguez 
                            <div>Solar Installation / <span
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                              <div>All Solar, Inc.
                                <div>1463 M St<br>
                                  <div>Penrose Colorado 81240</div>
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                                  <div>Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry
                                    for typos and shorthand. </div>
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