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0, 0);" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Yea I'm wondering the
easiest way to get a 125 AMP Midnite Inverter Bypass assembly in a
simple box for 2 Sol-Arks. Midnite would be the perfect candidate for a
simple support box (e-panel style) for Stacked Sol-Arks.<br>
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Jeff<br>
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<span>Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote on 9/10/20 9:37 AM:</span><br>
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<p>In an all in one, the good parts are balanced, sometimes, by a
small failure making the all in one useless. Only a complete spare will
save the day, or night...Also wonder about real world surge capacity on 1
hp pumps and big air compressors.</p>
<p>I am glad to hear that they will be making this in Texas, rather
than currently only in China. Anyone have more on this please?</p>
<p>AC bypass switching is a must for SolArk. They need a PDP or some
way to make this easier. The dual mppts are perfect for virtual
tracking. I begged for a dual mppt on the new Schneider high voltage
100a mppt :(</p>
<p>I wish them good luck and take back most of my concerns. Hope they
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<p>On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:44:36 -0400, Jason Szumlanski
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arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">There is a huge distinction in a hybrid
inverter that integrates MPPT charge control. Eliminating all of the
extraneous hardware and circuit protection associated with charge
controllers is very appealing. The 500V input limit is also a
game-changer in terms of wire size. I'm very interested in this
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also appealing in a lot of circumstances. Since Sol-Ark supports that,
too, it's hard to find downsides other than their infancy in the
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SMA tech support recently has been abysmal. Long hold times and getting
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<p>The most important thing here is that no one is standing up to sing
the praises of either SMA or Outback.</p>
<p>I myself have sent about 2 hours on hold over 2 days trying to get an
issue addressed by SMA.</p>
<p>Re: Sol-Arc I would pay a lot extra or take some not so good aspect
in exchange for good technical support.</p>
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combining AC output from these units when stacking several of them? What
bus/OCPD system are you using? Same question for generator/grid input. </div>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The solar MPPT
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">I
also suggest the Sol-Ark 12's. Extremely efficient, simple to program,
does a wonderful job in either ac coupling, stand alone or pure off grid
and terrific customer support.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Peter
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<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bryan Norkunas<br> <strong>Sent:</strong>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Sol-Arks
would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.</span></p>
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<p><strong><span>Bryan </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span>PV-Cables</span></strong><span></span></p>
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<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Chris Schaefer<br> <strong>Sent:</strong>
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<p>I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick call @ 972-575-8875
with their 12kw unit. Not sure what their max number of inverters are.</p>
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<p>On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield <<a
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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">Hey all,
I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and I'm
just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following
designs... </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">The
client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm
sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial
proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this
size range...</span></p>
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<li style="color: black; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-family:
Calibri,sans-serif;">I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up
to an 80 kW system. Are there any bugs or problems with using this many
inverters on one hub? I know I've read about issues with selling to the
grid, but that's not an issue, this is off-grid.</span></li>
<li style="color: black;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">I
know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up to a
72 kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?</span></li>
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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">Are
there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website
says they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">I know
that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system and
that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really
matter either way for this job. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks so
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