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0, 0);" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">I'm loving my first
install of Sol Arks - One downside of Sol-Ark (and I can't find many!)
is that the GEN terminal can only handle 1 of the following 3:
Generator, AC Coupling, or Smart Load. So if you want both a generator
and AC coupling you have to either do a separate transfer switch for the
GEN and not run it through the inverters - or you have to go with their
internal DC MPPTif you do want the GEN to charge the batteries (unless
you are off-grid totally and have no Grid in which case you might be
able to run the Generator into Grid? not sure about that - don't quote
me!).<br>
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Anyone else with any downsides?<br>
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Best,<br>
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Jeff<br>
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<span>Jason Szumlanski wrote on 9/10/20 4:44 AM:</span><br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">There is a huge
distinction in a hybrid inverter that integrates MPPT charge control.
Eliminating all of the extraneous hardware and circuit protection
associated with charge controllers is very appealing. The 500V input
limit is also a game-changer in terms of wire size. I'm very interested
in this approach.</div><div class="gmail_default"
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class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">On
the flip size, an AC Coupled approach is also appealing in a lot of
circumstances. Since Sol-Ark supports that, too, it's hard to find
downsides other than their infancy in the industry.</div><div
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class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And
for what it's worth, my experience with SMA tech support recently has
been abysmal. Long hold times and getting bounced around departments.</div><div
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<p>The most important thing here is that no one is standing up to
sing the praises of either SMA or Outback.</p>
<p>I myself have sent about 2 hours on hold over 2 days trying to
get an issue addressed by SMA.</p>
<p>Re: Sol-Arc I would pay a lot extra or take some not so good
aspect in exchange for good technical support.</p>
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on
combining AC output from these units when stacking several
of them? What bus/OCPD system are you using? Same question
for generator/grid input. </div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The solar
MPPT inputs appear to be dead simple.</div>
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moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>
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<p><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
also suggest the Sol-Ark 12\u2019s. Extremely
efficient, simple to program, does a wonderful job
in either ac coupling, stand alone or pure off
grid and terrific customer support.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Sol-Arks
would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.</span></p>
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<p><b><span>PV-Cables</span></b><span></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Schaefer<br>
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<p>I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick
call @ 972-575-8875 with their 12kw unit. Not sure
what their max number of inverters are.</p>
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<p>On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maxfieldsolar@hotmail.com</a>>
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<p><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Hey
all, I'm designing a microgrid sized
off-grid system for somebody, and I'm just
wondering if anyone knows of any issues
with the following designs... </span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">The
client says he needs 70 kW. His load data
looks pretty solid, so I'm sticking to
using that number as a minimum, at least
during the initial proposal stage. I only
know of two possible equipment options for
this size range...</span></p>
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<span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
think I can use up to 10 Outback
Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. Are
there any bugs or problems with using
this many inverters on one hub? I know
I've read about issues with selling to
the grid, but that's not an issue, this
is off-grid.</span></li>
<li style="color:black"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
know that the SMA cluster box with sunny
islands can allow for up to a 72 kW
system. Do you know of any bugs or
problems with this system?</span></li>
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<p><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Are
there any other options that anyone would
suggest? Schneider's website says they can
only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only
do up to 60 kW.</span></p>
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<p><span
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know that the Outback system would yield a
240/120 Split-Phase system and that the
SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but
this doesn't really matter either way for
this job. </span></p>
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<p><span
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