<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">There is a huge distinction in a hybrid inverter that integrates MPPT charge control. Eliminating all of the extraneous hardware and circuit protection associated with charge controllers is very appealing. The 500V input limit is also a game-changer in terms of wire size. I'm very interested in this approach.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">On the flip size, an AC Coupled approach is also appealing in a lot of circumstances. Since Sol-Ark supports that, too, it's hard to find downsides other than their infancy in the industry.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And for what it's worth, my experience with SMA tech support recently has been abysmal. Long hold times and getting bounced around departments.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Jason Szumlanski</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><tbody></tbody></table><b><div style="text-align:center"><br></div></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:50 PM Mark Frye <<a href="mailto:markf@berkeleysolar.com">markf@berkeleysolar.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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sing the praises of either SMA or Outback.</p>
<p>I myself have sent about 2 hours on hold over 2 days trying to
get an issue addressed by SMA.</p>
<p>Re: Sol-Arc I would pay a lot extra or take some not so good
aspect in exchange for good technical support.</p>
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sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches
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on behalf of <a href="mailto:pgiroux@mindspring.com" target="_blank">pgiroux@mindspring.com</a>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback
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<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
also suggest the Sol-Ark 12\u2019s. Extremely
efficient, simple to program, does a wonderful job
in either ac coupling, stand alone or pure off
grid and terrific customer support.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Peter
Giroux</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">ASAE</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryan Norkunas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:50
PM<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Sol-Arks
would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
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<p>I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick
call @ 972-575-8875 with their 12kw unit. Not sure
what their max number of inverters are.</p>
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all, I'm designing a microgrid sized
off-grid system for somebody, and I'm just
wondering if anyone knows of any issues
with the following designs... </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">The
client says he needs 70 kW. His load data
looks pretty solid, so I'm sticking to
using that number as a minimum, at least
during the initial proposal stage. I only
know of two possible equipment options for
this size range...</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
think I can use up to 10 Outback
Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. Are
there any bugs or problems with using
this many inverters on one hub? I know
I've read about issues with selling to
the grid, but that's not an issue, this
is off-grid.</span></li>
<li style="color:black"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
know that the SMA cluster box with sunny
islands can allow for up to a 72 kW
system. Do you know of any bugs or
problems with this system?</span></li>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Are
there any other options that anyone would
suggest? Schneider's website says they can
only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only
do up to 60 kW.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I
know that the Outback system would yield a
240/120 Split-Phase system and that the
SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but
this doesn't really matter either way for
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