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    <p>I agree, I would do one or the other.  The main point to using a
      LCB is so you don't have to have a battery.  A battery system is
      going to be much more versatile, and could allow an LED light, or
      even a small inverter.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/2/20 6:18 PM, Jay wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Dave </div>
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      <div dir="ltr">I don\u2019t know if you paralleled A battery with the
        output if you\u2019d damage the LCB. You won\u2019t hurt the pump. </div>
      <div dir="ltr">A diode on the output of the LCB side would take
        care of that though. </div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Might be worth a test?</div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Of course if you\u2019re going to be putting in a
        battery then maybe just use a CC/PV instead of the LCB. </div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Either method will probably need some kind of
        shutoff unless youve got lots of water. </div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Jay</div>
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        <blockquote type="cite">On Aug 2, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Dave
          Angelini Offgrid Solar <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">&lt;offgridsolar@sti.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">\ufeff
          <p>Thanks Jay !  I have project where I want to install a pump
            in a tank for remote watering. If the LCB is used, have you
            ever tried using a small ATV 12V AGM to allow the pump to
            run in wildfire smoke or at night? Just a switch to parallel
            the the LCB?</p>
          <p>Anyone tried this? There are a bunch of LCB's on amazon
            also.</p>
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            <pre><strong><span style="font-size: small;">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
<a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/</a>
e-mail  <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" moz-do-not-send="true">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>
text 209 813 0060</span></strong></pre>
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          <p>On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:21:44 -0700, Jay
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com">&lt;jay.peltz@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:</p>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi John</div>
            <div dir="ltr"> </div>
            <div dir="ltr">Sunpumps makes a really good one. </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> </div>
            <div dir="ltr">Here is a ebay link showing many of the new
              probably Chinese (not saying they are bad) but they are
              way less expensive than the US versions. </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> </div>
            <div dir="ltr"><a
                href="https://www.ebay.com/i/293234996712?chn=ps"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ebay.com/i/293234996712?chn=ps</a></div>
            <div dir="ltr"> </div>
            <div dir="ltr">I expect if you shop AliExpress you'll find
              these exact items. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Cheers</div>
            <div dir="ltr">Jay</div>
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              <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px;
                border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px;
                width:100%">On Aug 2, 2020, at 2:13 PM, John
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john@gosolar.co.nz">&lt;john@gosolar.co.nz&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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                      style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Yes they are
                      for positive displacement pumps \u2013 and the question
                      was where can you find them \u2013 who makes them...??<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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                      style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><!-- o ignored --> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Thanks,     
                      John<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>From:</span></strong><span>
                        RE-wrenches
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                        <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Dave Angelini
                        Offgrid Solar<br>
                        <strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, 3 August 2020
                        3:10 am<br>
                        <strong>To:</strong> RE-wrenches
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">&lt;re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org&gt;</a><br>
                        <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [RE-wrenches]
                        Small scale Maximisers/Optimisers.....<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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                  <p>Probably an RV water pump? And an LCB should work.
                    Who makes a good LCB for this Jay?<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                    <pre> <!-- o ignored --></pre>
                    <pre><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar<!-- o ignored --></span></strong></pre>
                    <pre><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">"we go where powerlines don't"<!-- o ignored --></span></strong></pre>
                    <pre><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;"><a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/</a><!-- o ignored --></span></strong></pre>
                    <pre><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">e-mail  <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" moz-do-not-send="true">offgridsolar@sti.net</a><!-- o ignored --></span></strong></pre>
                    <pre><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">text 209 813 0060</span></strong><!-- o ignored --></pre>
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                  <p>On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 07:34:34 -0700, Jay &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hi john,<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure which pumps you
                        are talking about. Are these positive
                        displacement, and if so then an LCB is what you
                        need.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <!-- o ignored --></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Jay<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
                          12.0pt;">On Aug 2, 2020, at 6:26 AM, John &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:john@gosolar.co.nz"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">john@gosolar.co.nz</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;
                            mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Where can you
                            find some small maximisers/optimisers for a
                            solar-only pump.   This would be for a
                            surface pump like the Flojet 11, 12 or 17
                            litre/min pumps.  They tend to keep the pump
                            operating when a cloud goes over or in
                            low-light conditions.    I think they are
                            available for the 9325 but its probably
                            over-kill for the Flojets.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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                            style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;
                            mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Cheers for
                            suggestions \u2013 John Veix,    N.Z.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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