<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Peter,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This may be of interest to anyone looking into cheap Li battery products. For 7 years we have been dealing in Li batteries as a retailer, installer, distributor and importer. Not a single day goes by that I don\u2019t receive 1 or more emails from a Li-ion battery company in China. I\u2019m not exaggerating. All are requesting that we import and sell their brand of battery. Most of them claim to have been in business for many years, have hundreds of employees and a huge variety of battery models. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I asked our battery manufacturer (LiFeBlue Battery) about the growing number of cheap battery offerings I receive daily; their explanation follows: In China over the last 10 years there have been many startup cell manufacturers. Most of these companies fail leaving literally tons of orphaned battery cell inventories. These batteries may sit for years in unknown climates. Right now there are battery cells being sold on eB\u2026.auction site that I know were manufactured 5 years ago! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Battery cell lots are eventually bought up and packaged under a new company name. These are usually very small businesses with just a few employees but with a big web presence. In China many use advertising guile (lying) to promote their product. The products are offered at much lower than current wholesale prices. For example, I can buy a 100Ah, 12V LFP drop in battery with BMS for $260. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My point to all is, buyer beware when considering cheap Li battery offerings. Nervous is good, Peter.</div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Larry Crutcher</span><br style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Starlight Solar Power Systems</span><br style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><br class=""></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div><br class=""><div class="">On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:16 PM, <<a href="mailto:pgiroux@mindspring.com" class="">pgiroux@mindspring.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:pgiroux@mindspring.com" class="">pgiroux@mindspring.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello Fellow wrenchers. Has anyone purchased and used any batteries from Electric Car Parts out of Utah. They have a 48 volt, 5, 7.5 and 10 KW Lipo battery made by Energetech ( China ) . I have a customer that would like to use the product ( low cost ) but it is tough getting any actual info from the company i.e UL Certification paperwork or do the batteries have a BMS. If anyone has any experience with these folks please let me know. Just looking out for my customer and the lack of response and follow up from ECP is making me nervous. Thank you all in advance.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thx<br class="">Peter Giroux<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">American Solar<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Roswell Ga<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">678 525 0468<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></body></html>